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Old August 25th, 2008, 08:39 AM   #1
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Discrimination of gender & race still alive and well.

Well I have not been here for awhile so thought I would update my recent views on discrimination in the work place.



My true belief is people should just be decent to one another concerning the Rights we are supposed to be afforded as American citizens. The fact is though we are not treated as equals no matter how much anyone says we are.



My most recent experience let me know once more regardless how good I can do my job I am still a female therefore inferior to male counterparts in the eyes of the ignorant. The worst of it though is there are females that encourage discrimitory practices in male dominated fields. I had one just in the last few weeks tell me, "Well that is primarily a male job". This gal was suppose to be a civil rights leader. It some what stunned me for a second. I mean what difference does it make about male or female on operating a piece of heavy equipment machinery? My feet hit the pedals and my hands reach the controls. The only difference there could be is that maybe I have to take shorter steps climbing on to the machine because I am a bit shorter than the majority of my male counterparts.



You'd think after thirty years things would have changed for the better. Yet it is the same ole same ole out there in the Operators world. Thirty years ago I was told by a perspective employer, "I've got men who feed their families". Regardless I needed to feed my family also. A woman with two small children was as nought in his eyes.



We cannot force people to treat each other with equality. So we must have a few safegaurds in effect to insure at least a portion of equality.
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I think there is not only discrimination in the workplace, as I went through in my life until 1978, but I think there's also discrimination within the church, as I am experiencing right now.
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Old August 25th, 2008, 09:06 AM   #3
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I think there is not only discrimination in the workplace, as I went through in my life until 1978, but I think there's also discrimination within the church, as I am experiencing right now.
Yeah its alive and well. All one person can do is to keep fighting the good fight. Jesus told those in charge of the church way back when they were hypocrites. Heck the same Word is as good today as it was then.



It is not is what is on the outside that counts. It is what is on the inside that matters. The churches above all should reconize this. Today I see so many that go to the churches do so only to gain an edge of some sorts. Guess that is why the master said, the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. If you cannot look at yourself honestly you surely cannot look at others with a open mind to what their hearts are made of be it stone or flesh. It would be nice to crush the spirit of discrimination for all could live decently with one another.



The thing about Affirmative action is we all need to be able to support ourselves. Everyone has a right to be treated with equal means to survive in this ole world.
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Look, it's like this. Male whites have priority in the workplace and earn the best salaries. Females can only earn the same salaries, or even rise above, if they are just willing to give some pussy. This only applies to attractive females mind you. If you are an ugly female and not white - you are fucked.



It's only fair.
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Yeah its alive and well. All one person can do is to keep fighting the good fight. Jesus told those in charge of the church way back when they were hypocrites. Heck the same Word is as good today as it was then.



It is not is what is on the outside that counts. It is what is on the inside that matters. The churches above all should reconize this. Today I see so many that go to the churches do so only to gain an edge of some sorts. Guess that is why the master said, the Kingdom of Heaven is within you. If you cannot look at yourself honestly you surely cannot look at others with a open mind to what their hearts are made of be it stone or flesh. It would be nice to crush the spirit of discrimination for all could live decently with one another.



The thing about Affirmative action is we all need to be able to support ourselves. Everyone has a right to be treated with equal means to survive in this ole world.


Amen to that. Truer words have never been spoken.



If I should say something about my situation to the clergy about my problem, I am afraid that it would lead to something worse. So I just say nothing for now.



I was discriminated in another church once, and I transferred out of there. Now it is happening again. I just hate to make my feelings known as I think it can lead to reprisals.
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Another thing is that black colleges need to stop graduating people who still can not read or write. This is still a problem whether you want to believe it or not.
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Look, it's like this. Male whites have priority in the workplace and earn the best salaries. Females can only earn the same salaries, or even rise above, if they are just willing to give some pussy. This only applies to attractive females mind you. If you are an ugly female and not white - you are fucked.



It's only fair.


And herein lies the fact that there are female-owned companies. I have not heard any reports of them discriminating against men. But that does not mean it is happening.
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Old August 25th, 2008, 09:22 AM   #8
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That is why we still need affirmative action PN. Because there are those of us who have already have promise fidelity to our loved one. If'n we wanted to sleep our way to the top we chould wouldn't be doing it for a measely paycheck.



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Look, it's like this. Male whites have priority in the workplace and earn the best salaries. Females can only earn the same salaries, or even rise above, if they are just willing to give some pussy. This only applies to attractive females mind you. If you are an ugly female and not white - you are fucked.



It's only fair.
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Another thing is that black colleges need to stop graduating people who still can not read or write. This is still a problem whether you want to believe it or not.


What is it called, "outcome based education"?
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And herein lies the fact that there are female-owned companies. I have not heard any reports of them discriminating against men. But that does not mean it is happening.
I had my own company. It was destroyed with the help of men who could not stand to see a woman owning her own mining operation. I never applied for EEO so I was a target from the get go. One would think at the very least I should be able to get a trade job so I can make a decent living.



If given a second chance to run that company again I would apply for every advantage out there for women. I did not the first time because I truly believe there were people out there with integrity. Seeing my current situation I was obviously incorrect.
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