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Old September 23rd, 2011, 07:57 PM   #1
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I get what the city is trying to do. But I also think that it stomps all over freedom of religion.



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ACLU: Alabama town cannot impose church sentences



By: The Associated Press

Published: September 23, 2011



BAY MINETTE, Ala --(AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union says Bay Minette must stop a program that will soon allow offenders to choose whether they serve a jail sentence or attend church every Sunday for a year.



The ACLU of Alabama plans to send Bay Minette a letter demanding it stop a program that's supposed to start next week. Offenders who successfully complete it would have their cases dismissed.





State ACLU Executive Director Olivia Turner says the alternative sentencing program "flagrantly" violates the Constitution. She says the government cannot force someone to attend church. She says that when offenders must pick between prison or religious services, they do not have a true choice.



City officials did not return calls seeking comment.



Bay Minette Police Chief Mike Rowland says the program could help reform offenders.



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Old September 23rd, 2011, 11:39 PM   #2
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Amazing. Only in Alabama.
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Old September 24th, 2011, 12:11 AM   #3
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Amazing. Only in Alabama.
Nah. I am pretty sure that this would fly pretty much anywhere in the South. I take it that I can put you down as a nay vote on this innovative idea??
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Old September 24th, 2011, 07:40 AM   #4
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Amazing. Only in Alabama.
Nah. I am pretty sure that this would fly pretty much anywhere in the South. I take it that I can put you down as a nay vote on this innovative idea??
About as blatant and abusive a 1st Amendment violation as I've ever seen.



Judge Roy Moore of ten commandments fame was from Alabama so this seems in character as judicial practice. You'd think the Christofascists would learn after being repeatedly shot down on the same issue, time after time.
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Old September 24th, 2011, 07:45 AM   #5
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What connection do you see betweeen being prohibited from displaying the Ten Commandments, even though they hang in the US Supreme Court, and sentencing someone to go to church??
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The other thing that's astounding about the program is that it says not only do church-goers avoid prison but they get their cases dismissed, thus avoiding a criminal record.



Sounds like a wholesale adoption of the bizarre Catholic notion of absolution of sins......why don't they simply require several "Our Fathers" and a few dozen "Hail Marys", rather than wasting time in church? It also sounds like the town of Bay Minette has confused sin with crime, and religious penalties with civil and criminal sanctions.



A good summary is here:

http://blog.al.com/l...ive_senten.html



The upside is that since sitting in a pew on Sunday already feels a lot like prison, forced punitive attendance will surely make more people unfriend their imaginary friends. And I'll bet that the Christofascists in Bay Minette forgot about the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, where I park my criminal butt on Sunday. It seems they also forgot about Jews, Muslims and other faiths which don't worship on Sunday.
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Sounds a bit bizzare to me. They should choose a Baptist church though. There shouldn't be any problem finding one in Alabama.
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