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Old May 23rd, 2007, 04:47 PM   #21
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Actually my attack wasn't on religion in general. It was on the stupid fueding between religions. We have progressed beyond that in our knowledge yet no one will budge on their beliefs for fear of admitting something in it was wrong to start with. Get over it.

We are all the same people. Fighting over religion, imaginary lines draw on a map, and hate of others ways may just be our demise. It will take many people within these religions to standup and say enough is enough. It is the opposition of other relgions that bred hate. We must come together as one people to save our world before it is too late., IMO. Love and Peace to all.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:10 PM   #22
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The origin stories in the Old Testament of the Bible are taken from earlier civilizations, but the original creator gods were demonized, (the serpent was worshipped, and the priestesses who handled the snakes were immune to their poison).



The 10 commandments were reduced from the original 42 commandments of the ancient Egyptians.



The words in the 23 Psalm are supposed to say: forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors, NOT: forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Gee, I wonder why that one got changed.



The words of Jesus Christ were twisted and tampered with throughout history to make sense for the changing times, social conditions and different leaderships, most notably shown in "Paul's" books.

Prior to Paul, women preached the word of Christ, and were the ones that kept the religion going. After Paul, they were excluded.



The King James Version of the Bible was written to make kingship look more favorable.



Great personalities, striving to make the world a better place in the worst of times, are remembered long after their deaths.


What you quoted above, which you identified as the 23rd Psalm actually was from Matthew Chapter 6, and identified as "The Lord's Prayer"

Starting with verse 9) After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10) Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11) Give us this day our daily bread.

12) And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors

13)And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil? For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen



Read verse 14 and you will see that debts and tresspasses are synonymous.

14) For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you;



Here is the 23rd Psalm:

1) The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2) He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3) He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake

4) Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5) Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6) Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.



The King James Version of the Bible has been compared many times with the ancient manuscripts, including the "Dead sea scrolls", and found to be more accurate than more modern tanslations.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 03:17 AM   #23
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Blah Blah Blah.....Its all more babble from ancient books written to keep people inline then changed along the way to fit the current blll. Please just admit there is no proof of God's existence at all. Faith is the only proof. No science there at all. None.
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"The origin stories in the Old Testament of the Bible are taken from earlier civilizations, but the original creator gods were demonized, (the serpent was worshipped, and the priestesses who handled the snakes were immune to their poison).



The 10 commandments were reduced from the original 42 commandments of the ancient Egyptians.




The words in the 23 Psalm are supposed to say: forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors, NOT: forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Gee, I wonder why that one got changed."








What might appear as religious plagerism from a cynical viewpoint is, from the Baha’i perspective, simply evidence that there is, in truth, only one religion. For example, many might point out the series of similarities between Jesus and Mitrha. To which my reply is simply say – well perhaps Jesus and Mithra have the same boss.

In other words, there are some basic spiritual teachings that don’t really change, they are merely refreshed from time to time. Likewise, there are “social teachings” in religions that might be relative to a particular time and place. An example of this might be the strict dietary restrictions in some of the older religious dispensations. Laws regarding marriage – it’s monogamous in some traditions, plural in others – is another example.







"The words of Jesus Christ were twisted and tampered with throughout history to make sense for the changing times, social conditions and different leaderships, most notably shown in "Paul's" books.

Prior to Paul, women preached the word of Christ, and were the ones that kept the religion going. After Paul, they were excluded.

The King James Version of the Bible was written to make kingship look more favorable."




That religious texts and teaching are forgotten, corrupted or even deliberately twisted by those in power over time is also a given. When a new Messenger arrives, a big part of His duties is to “wipe the dust from the lamp” so to speak – or brush away the parts of religion that are either corrupt or outworn.





"Great personalities, striving to make the world a better place in the worst of times, are remembered long after their deaths."







Hmmmmm… again, I think that’s a bit of a shallow write-off, taking too lightly the degree to which these beings have affected Humanity’s history.
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"Blah Blah Blah.....Its all more babble from ancient books written to keep people inline then changed along the way to fit the current blll. Please just admit there is no proof of God's existence at all. Faith is the only proof. No science there at all. None."



Faith and science are not at odds.



And honestly, I've yet to hear a decent argument that God does not exist.
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Blah Blah Blah.....Its all more babble from ancient books written to keep people inline then changed along the way to fit the current blll. Please just admit there is no proof of God's existence at all. Faith is the only proof. No science there at all. None.


I can find hundreds of websites that prove God's existance; therefore, it must be true!
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Blah Blah Blah.....Its all more babble from ancient books written to keep people inline then changed along the way to fit the current blll. Please just admit there is no proof of God's existence at all. Faith is the only proof. No science there at all. None.


God invented science
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"I can find hundreds of websites that prove God's existance; therefore, it must be true!"



Websites prove Al Gore invented the Internet.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 01:32 PM   #29
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I can find hundreds of websites that prove God's existance; therefore, it must be true!
Someone could also find hundreds of websites that prove god doesnt exist, so is that true aswell?
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God invented science


The misunderstanding of sciences made man invent God.
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