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Old August 7th, 2015, 02:02 PM   #21
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Fuck all of that sinning nonsense. All a sort of trash really. I'm doomed to be cast into hellfire for the sheer crime of existing? What kind of tyrannical shit is that? Fuck off.
Remember Kids, if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing.....
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Remember Kids, if you don't sin, Jesus died for nothing.....
And you didn't have much fun.
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And you didn't have much fun.
There's probably been more than enough "sin" in the world to compensate for all our our own personal "deficiencies."
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And you didn't have much fun.
There's probably been more than enough "sin" in the world to compensate for all our our own personal "deficiencies" combined.
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Universalism bows to the omnipotence of God, that nothing can stand in the way of God's intentions, certainly not an arrogant mass of self-impressed protoplasm who heaps judgement upon others yet spares himself his judgement due.

Once a person sees it, the Gospel is universalist through and through. A short example.

"The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand." -- John 3:35

"Thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him." -- John 17:2

"All that the Father giveth me, shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in nowise cast out." -- John 6:37

If you're ready to see it, you will, but if you're not, that's understandable. The churches have done a thorough job of hiding the Gospel's universalist message, because religion and government have been bound together since before recorded history.

Telling people that God will not have even one of his/her children perish isn't of much use for instilling fear in the people, fear that makes them give up their minds, makes them easy to control.

And, if some are going to Heaven while others are going to hell, and the church has the keys to the gate of Country Club Heaven, well, it's always an ego boost to be a member of an exclusive club.

You're an atheist, Franklin. Why don't you just admit it?
The author of Ecclesiastes, was he an atheist? If not, how does my position differ from his?

Of course I am not a Christian. But I respect several branches of Christianity including Calvin-based Protestantism (especially Puritans) and Orthodox Christianity. I do not respect Universalism, modern Protestantism, and Catholicism. I am not going to argue Christian theology, but the point is that many significant Christian sects agreed with my position.

imaginethat, your reading assignment for this Sabbath is Deuteronomy 28. Please post your interpretation of it.
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