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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:03 AM   #1
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Judge Orders Prayer in Court

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Judge Orders Prayer in Court




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ANDALUSIA AL (2008-08-15) An Alabama judge who once wore the Ten Commandments embroidered on his robe has been accused of violating judicial ethics for ordering a group in his courtroom to hold hands and pray.



The American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint with the Judicial Inquiry Commission against Covington County Circuit Judge Ashley McKathan of Andalusia, said Olivia Turner, executive director of the ACLU of Alabama. The complaint said McKathan violated ethics rules and the U.S. Constitution by ordering the group to pray.



Four years ago, McKathan donned the Ten Commandments robe, he said, to publicly acknowledge his belief that the law is based on more than just words written in law books.



The ACLU complaint said McKathan dropped to his knees and prayed aloud during a court hearing in February. He told the 100 people in the courtroom that he was not afraid to call on the name of Jesus Christ, witnesses said, and ordered all to join hands and pray, according to the complaint filed soon after the hearing.



The hearing was for a case in which the pastor and several deacons of Morning Star Missionary Baptist Church in Monroeville sued the church's former secretary to gain possession of financial records.



In response to the complaint, McKathan told the Mobile Press-Register for a story Thursday: "Whatever comes of all that, I'll continue to have peace." Quoting Romans in the King James version of the Bible, the judge added: "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them that are called according to his purpose."



McKathan did not immediately return a call from The Associated Press Thursday.



The complaint was filed on behalf of several Monroeville residents, including some church members.



When asked by The New American Magazine if he ever experienced any difficult cases in his career in which his "reliance on the truth of the Ten Commandments or on the truth found in the Bible" helped clarify his thinking and decision making, Judge McKathan said:


"Absolutely! It can arise in many different ways but one of the areas where this comes up most frequently is in making child custody decisions. Without some guiding principles, how do you decide what is in the best interest of the child? I often use this example and I haven't seen anybody publish it yet if you had a child custody case in which the parents appeared otherwise equally able to parent the child but one was a Christian or a Jewish person and the other was a Satanist, who do you give the child to? The answer to that question is a religious answer. You seldom have that extreme, but you have variations of that issue that arise in child custody cases. That is just an extreme example but the principle comes up in all kinds of situations of the law."



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Old August 18th, 2008, 05:49 AM   #2
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"Absolutely! It can arise in many different ways but one of the areas where this comes up most frequently is in making child custody decisions. Without some guiding principles, how do you decide what is in the best interest of the child? I often use this example — and I haven't seen anybody publish it yet — if you had a child custody case in which the parents appeared otherwise equally able to parent the child but one was a Christian or a Jewish person and the other was a Satanist, who do you give the child to? The answer to that question is a religious answer. You seldom have that extreme, but you have variations of that issue that arise in child custody cases. That is just an extreme example but the principle comes up in all kinds of situations of the law."


The answer is - the parent who is most able to care for the child's physical, emotional, and material needs. You don't automatically say "The Jewish or Christian parent" any more than you automatically say "NOT the Satanist parent".



All you have to do is look at examples like this:



Spare the quarter-inch plumbing supply line, spoil the child | Salon Life



Domestic Abuse in the Jewish Community: Judaism and Child Abuse: If You Beat Him He Will Not Die



to realize that "Christian" or "Jew" does not automatically equate to "good parent".
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Unlike in white families, with Black kids there's a much higher chance if you don't beat hard headedness out of the child early, the cops'll just shoot him later.

Boy shot by police in Henry County | ajc.com

That child should have had a few good ass slappings at one time or another.
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the only thing beating a child does is teach him how to beat others
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the only thing beating a child does is teach him how to beat others
Not necessarily.

I wonder what does shooting a child create?
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probably a dead child



I guess shooting is the next step after beating, huh?
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probably a dead child



I guess shooting is the next step after beating, huh?
Happens all too frequently these days to kids caught in crimes. It's a shame.
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the only thing beating a child does is teach him how to beat others
The Good reverend Fred Phelps would disagree with you.
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The Good reverend Fred Phelps would disagree with you.


thank god
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Actually, I wasn't just trying to be funny. Phelps beat 2 of his sons so severely in childhood that they have physical disabilities now in adulthood. They have problems with bone splinters for one thing.
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