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Old May 20th, 2009, 04:47 PM   #51
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Old June 16th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #52
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The typical Christian view of "God" is a judge who looks at what you do in the ONE life you get and then decides whether or not you "pass" or "fail". This leads people who believe that they are following the "right" path to either try to get everyone to believe exactly as they do (which you can't blame them for, because to them, they are right) or at the very worst, look down on and ridicule those that don't fit their "morality".



The Wiccan view of "God", and my personal view, is that it (I say "it" and not "he" because how can the supreme creative force possibly have a gender) is more like a loving parent, waiting at the end of the path for us to finish, no matter how long, or how many tries, it takes.


Almighty God (Hebrew, El Shaddai.)



(1) The etymological signification of Almighty God (El Shaddai) is both interesting and touching. God (El) signifies the "Strong One". The qualifying word Shaddai is formed from the Hebrew word "shad," the breast, invariably used in Scripture for a woman's breast; e.g. Gen 49.25; Job 3.12; Psa. 22.9; Song 1.13; 4.5; 7.3, 7, 8, 10; Isa 28.9; Ezk 16.7. Shaddai therefore means primarily "the breasted." God is "Shaddai," because He is the Nourisher, the Strength-giver, and so, in a secondary sense, the Satisfier, who pours Hiimself into believing lives. As a fretful, unsatisfied babe is not only strengthened and nourished from the mother's breast, but also is quieted, rested, satisfied, so El Shaddai is that name of God which sets Him forth as the Strength-giver and Satisfier of His people. It is on every account to be regretted that "Shaddai" was translated "Almighty." The primary name El or Elohim sufficiently signifies almightiness. "All-sufficient" would far better express both the Hebrew meaning and the characteristic use of the name in Scripture.



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Old June 16th, 2009, 08:58 PM   #53
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Since a few of you found the online book I directed you to, I thought this one would really get you going!!
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Old June 16th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #54
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The typical Christian view of "God" is a judge who looks at what you do in the ONE life you get and then decides whether or not you "pass" or "fail". This leads people who believe that they are following the "right" path to either try to get everyone to believe exactly as they do (which you can't blame them for, because to them, they are right) or at the very worst, look down on and ridicule those that don't fit their "morality".


Well, we're not to follow people. We're to follow Jesus Christ. And try to fit to the 10 commandments. Below is some very good advice:



Matthew 7:12-14

12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because F15 strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.



In the New American Standard version:



Matthew 7:12

"In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

13

"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

14

"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.



Many people believe the law was done away with, but did you know that the "Golden Rule" is but a summary of the ten commandments? The first four have to do with how we treat God: Mark 12:28-34

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And you will keep the other three if you love Him.



31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.



If you love your neighbor as yourself, you will not steal from him, lie to him, commit adultery with his wife, kill him, or covet his belongings, right? and you will honor your parents.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 09:41 PM   #55
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The typical Christian view of "God" is a judge who looks at what you do in the ONE life you get and then decides whether or not you "pass" or "fail". This leads people who believe that they are following the "right" path to either try to get everyone to believe exactly as they do (which you can't blame them for, because to them, they are right) or at the very worst, look down on and ridicule those that don't fit their "morality".


Well, we're not to follow people. We're to follow Jesus Christ. And do our best to keep the commandments. Below is some very good advice:



Matthew 7:12-14

12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.



In the New American Standard version:



Matthew 7:12

"In everything, therefore, treat people the same way you want them to treat you, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

13

"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.

14

"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.



Many people believe the law was done away with, but did you know that the "Golden Rule" is but a summary of the ten commandments? The first four have to do with how we treat God: Mark 12:28-34

28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And you will keep the other three if you love Him.



31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.



If you love your neighbor as yourself, you will not steal from him, lie to him, commit adultery with his wife, kill him, or covet his belongings, right? and you will honor your parents.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 10:50 PM   #56
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Well, we're not to follow people. We're to follow Jesus Christ. And try to fit to the 10 commandments.


If there was a historical Jesus, he was just a person whose followers claimed was a god after he died. In short, you're guilty of following people.



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Old June 19th, 2009, 08:14 AM   #57
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We're not to follow people... we are only to follow superstitious characters from books written by people for whom there is no substantial proof... Yeah, that makes sense... (rolling eyes)
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Old July 13th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #58
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–noun 1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat. 2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief. 3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents. 4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.



Origin:

1125–75; earlier bile(e)ve (n. use of v.); r. ME bileave, equiv. to bi- be- + leave; cf. OE gelēafa (c. D geloof, G Glaube; akin to Goth galaubeins)


- belief definition | Dictionary.com



I'm going to agree with Chesterton on this one, since the enumeration of belief is beyond my typing speed.



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"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.


I know. Most females keep it covered as males do.The narrow gate metaphor has many imaginative elicitations beside the sexual one. Yet the use of common objects in parable was very effective in making confused people think about issues of import as life and death are. We as a species are ecstatic about common extremes of behavior until the saturation of the actuality of it disgusts us to revulsion. Imagery has been a screen for policy making life and death decisions without the emotional responses consideder compassionate or even human. Numbed by scenes of horror or sex, the response potential is weakened by overload to continue on it's own until it runs out of motive. The rise of the beast is another metaphor of the callous effect of saturation by tolerance. Tolerance allowed Jesus to be crucified as an innocent. Whether it was to justify sin is already refuted. God forbid, is written. So, if God has limited evidence of existance other than blind belief which eventually becomes the "substance of things hoped for as evidence of things not seen", then Jesus as Christ could think it was not robbery for him to be equal with God. (or god) God defined in scripture as spirit, light, love, transcendental attributes of existance not unlike quantum theory stating that anything is possible for the sum of all momentary possibilities. What does that have to do with quality and sustainability of life? A matter of choice in action or restraint. Rochefoucault wrote Les Maximes, in which is written, "The head is the dupe of the heart." Religion seems to claim that the heart is in balance with the head and vice versa, except when it goes wrong. (sin)
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I believe in all the things that bible say.I believe that Mary is a virgin lady which is a mother of Christ.
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