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Old September 14th, 2016, 07:36 AM   #1
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Chevy Bolt EV range is 238 miles: Prime time for the electric car?

The right side sure has been quiet. Can't remember the last time they discussed Government Motors.

I think that's because if they hold "Obama" and "success" in the minds, their heads explode.

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Chevy Bolt EV range is 238 miles: Prime time for the electric car?

Crowds formed and money seemed to rain from the sky when Tesla began taking deposits for its 200-mile, $35,000 Model 3 electric sedan in the spring.

It will be more than a year before the Model 3 hits the road — and that’s if Elon Musk makes good on his promise to deliver the car by late 2017. But now, Chevrolet has created a Tesla fighter that's similarly priced, with even longer range — and it'll be available by the end of year.

The General Motors subsidiary announced Tuesday that its 2017 Bolt EV has achieved a federally tested range of 238 miles per charge. That impressive number — enough to travel, in theory, from Riverside to Las Vegas without stopping to recharge — is the best of available battery-powered cars in that price range.

As the first mid-priced, long-range electric vehicle to hit the market, the Bolt could be the most convincing argument yet for mainstream acceptance of an electric vehicle.

“This is the game-changer,” said Kelley Blue Book senior analyst Karl Brauer, who has followed the electric vehicle market closely. “This is the reason people will finally say electric vehicles are ready for prime time.”
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Old September 14th, 2016, 08:05 AM   #2
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The right side sure has been quiet. Can't remember the last time they discussed Government Motors.

I think that's because if they hold "Obama" and "success" in the minds, their heads explode.



More: Chevy Bolt EV range is 238 miles: Prime time for the electric car? - LA Times

Gasoline powered cars have been around for over 100 years. You don't have to change the spark plugs in a modern day gasoline car until 100,000 miles. Modern day gasoline powered cars are 'greener' than modern day electric cars. Buying a modern day electric car is 'feel good' for the owner and nothing more. I have a hunch that the 238 mile range for the Bolt was on a level test track and certainly not going through the mountains of Tennessee.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 08:07 AM   #3
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Gasoline powered cars have been around for over 100 years. You don't have to change the spark plugs in a modern day gasoline car until 100,000 miles. Modern day gasoline powered cars are 'greener' than modern day electric cars. Buying a modern day electric car is 'feel good' for the owner and nothing more. I have a hunch that the 238 mile range for the Bolt was on a level test track and certainly not going through the mountains of Tennessee.
They are not greener.
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Good for GM. Tesla took the very smart tact of saying that e-cars are new and there is the unknown to fear and the range anxiety problem so to counter that, he made it a hot, hip, sporty car to get it on the street.

This move by GM is exactly where I thought Musk was heading towards. Looks like GM just beat him a little.

If I ever need another vehicle, I'm getting an e-car. Only once in the past three years have we gone more than 200 miles in one day, and for that we can rent a highway yacht.
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They are not greener.
They only way they could be 'greener' is if the electricity used to charge them is a non-nuclear or non-fossil fuel power source. Look at the size of the darned thing and I for one would not take it on the interstate and get smashed by a big Mac Truck. The automatic driving system on the Tesla has already claimed its first victim.
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Gasoline powered cars have been around for over 100 years. You don't have to change the spark plugs in a modern day gasoline car until 100,000 miles. Modern day gasoline powered cars are 'greener' than modern day electric cars. Buying a modern day electric car is 'feel good' for the owner and nothing more. I have a hunch that the 238 mile range for the Bolt was on a level test track and certainly not going through the mountains of Tennessee.
You overlook the effects on ground-level traffic, of moving combustion off the streets, using electric vehicles rather than diesel or gas powered for deliveries.

Energy-wise, gas and electric vehicles consume virtually the same amount of energy.
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They only way they could be 'greener' is if the electricity used to charge them is a non-nuclear or non-fossil fuel power source. Look at the size of the darned thing and I for one would not take it on the interstate and get smashed by a big Mac Truck. The automatic driving system on the Tesla has already claimed its first victim.
Conversion of hydrocarbon, even coal, to energy is far more efficient in a large power plant than in four or six or eight little burners. Electric motors are far more efficient that IC engines. So no, the e-cars are still way better.

The one questionable point which I still haven't seen probative results on, is how much escaping pollution is caused by battery manufacturing.
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