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Old January 8th, 2018, 10:37 AM   #1
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Ancient Stone Carvings Show a Comet Swarm Hitting Earth Around 10,950 BCE

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Researchers have translated famous ancient symbols in a temple in Turkey, and they tell the story of a devastating comet impact more than 13,000 years ago.

Cross-checking the event with computer simulations of the Solar System around that time, researchers suggest that the carvings could describe a comet impact that occurred around 10,950 BCE - about the same time a mini ice age started that changed civilisation forever.

This mini ice age, known as the Younger Dryas, lasted around 1,000 years, and it's considered a crucial period for humanity because it was around that time agriculture and the first Neolithic civilisations arose - potentially in response to the new colder climates. The period has also been linked to the extinction of the woolly mammoth.

But although the Younger Dryas has been thoroughly studied, it's not clear exactly what triggered the period. A comet strike is one of the leading hypotheses, but scientists haven't been able to find physical proof of comets from around that time.



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I love this stuff. If in fact that comets hit the glaciers this could have caused a global flood wiping out much of the creatures on the planet. More and more evidence keeps coming up of advanced civilizations whos knowledge has been lost.

The archeology community most likely has been pushing this under the rug for years.
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I love this stuff. If in fact that comets hit the glaciers this could have caused a global flood wiping out much of the creatures on the planet. More and more evidence keeps coming up of advanced civilizations whos knowledge has been lost.

The archeology community most likely has been pushing this under the rug for years.
Sab, for goodness sake why add the conspiratorial note? Archeologists are out to make a name for themselves. To insinuate they'd withhold a discovery that would do just that is ....

You tell me.

But otherwise, I like this kind of stuff too.
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The archeology community most likely has been pushing this under the rug for years.
Sorry folks, but I have to ask.

Why ?
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Old January 8th, 2018, 03:24 PM   #6
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Sab, for goodness sake why add the conspiratorial note? Archeologists are out to make a name for themselves. To insinuate they'd withhold a discovery that would do just that is ....

You tell me.

But otherwise, I like this kind of stuff too.
Geologists have proven years ago that through erosion that the sphinx predates known Egypt by thousands of years, most likely from the age before the event yet Egyptologists reject this. Futther more the tunnels under the sphinx have not been publicly explored. There has been a new "void" discovered in the great pyramid that goes against the newest book by leading Egyptologists. There is a lot of stuff.


Why they do it. I dont know. There is also a pyramid is south or centeral america that is still releasing energy at the same frequencies as teslas free energy theory. The tunnels beneath that one are still filled w/ water as the tunnels under the great pyramid are dry. So, the theory that i currently like is that the great pyramid was an energy source, a machine of sorts and that they have not worked it out or they have but do not want free energy for the people.


Regards, i think that an advanced society that was all but wiped out some 12,000 years ago makes a lot of sence and that a few survivors passed select knowledge to tribes of hunter gathers that took them in after the event. This would explain why their building techniques regressed over time. Something that has bothered me ever since i was a small child.
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Geologists have proven years ago that through erosion that the sphinx predates known Egypt by thousands of years, most likely from the age before the event yet Egyptologists reject this. Futther more the tunnels under the sphinx have not been publicly explored. There has been a new "void" discovered in the great pyramid that goes against the newest book by leading Egyptologists. There is a lot of stuff.


Why they do it. I dont know. There is also a pyramid is south or centeral america that is still releasing energy at the same frequencies as teslas free energy theory. The tunnels beneath that one are still filled w/ water as the tunnels under the great pyramid are dry. So, the theory that i currently like is that the great pyramid was an energy source, a machine of sorts and that they have not worked it out or they have but do not want free energy for the people.


Regards, i think that an advanced society that was all but wiped out some 12,000 years ago makes a lot of sence and that a few survivors passed select knowledge to tribes of hunter gathers that took them in after the event. This would explain why their building techniques regressed over time. Something that has bothered me ever since i was a small child.
Although most Christian churches go way out of their way to reconcile the Genesis 1 and the Genesis 2 accounts of creation, some Christian churches maintain the accounts refer to the original creation - in which the advanced cultures you've mentioned existed - and a re-creation after a terrible conflict that rendered the earth formless and void.

This is an interesting read: Creation, or Re-Creation?
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Although most Christian churches go way out of their way to reconcile the Genesis 1 and the Genesis 2 accounts of creation, some Christian churches maintain the accounts refer to the original creation - in which the advanced cultures you've mentioned existed - and a re-creation after a terrible conflict that rendered the earth formless and void.

This is an interesting read: Creation, or Re-Creation?
Both are readers digest versions of how the earth was created.

I want you to write the context of the book "Brief Moment in Time" by Hawking in one page.
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I've been planning to add to this thread for a couple of days now, but never got around to it cause I wanted to do a little background reading cause I have no trust in the accuracy of stories written by underpaid Google contributors.

The basic facts seem to check out here, except the lead researcher interviewed by the UK Telegraph is stepping out way ahead of evidence he can prove by claiming:
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The translation of the symbols also suggests that Gobekli Tepe wasn't just another temple, as long assumed - it might have also been an ancient observatory.

"It appears Gobekli Tepe was, among other things, an observatory for monitoring the night sky," Sweatman told the Press Association.
First problem is there were many stone buildings constructed and being dug up at the Gobekli Tepe site Göbekli Tepe - Pictures, More From National Geographic Magazine and he's calling one of them a temple(seems likely)and an "ancient observatory." I would bet that every other ancient structure in the world that was built during the neolithic era was also built partly to track the movements of the Sun, Moon and planets...so this isn't exactly earth-shakinig news!

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The translation of the symbols also suggests that Gobekli Tepe wasn't just another temple, as long assumed - it might have also been an ancient observatory.
I got to ask: What translation? From where? By whom? Nobody has been claiming that the hieroglyphs at this and other ancient sites have a translation that we can read...the hieroglyphs at Harappa and Mohenjo Daro...one of the "cradles" of civilization also don't have translations because unlike Egypt and Sumer, the Indus Valley Civilization was completely destroyed by later invaders who were intent on destroying the local culture along with destroying cities and killing people. But, because there are similarities between the ancient Dravidian sanskrit symbols for comets and the symbols at Gobekli Tepe, it's believed that they are describing the same celestial event.

What we have are comparisons with identical and similar symbols used around the world at that time, and basic symbols for Sun, Moon, stars and planets are very similar...either because of shared information or they were just drawn the way they appear.

So, let's taken as a given that the symbol of a comet is engraved into a monument(assumed temple) at Gobekli Tepe, then what? The researcher sounds bewildered by how a discription of a comet shower would appear on a building believed to have been built almost 2000 years later. But, again, this 'temple' is far from being the oldest structure on the site!

Prior to his death three years ago, lead archaeologist at Gobekli Tepe - Klaus Schmidt declared that he still wasn't sure if the diggers had reached the bottom yet and located the first buildings...so the building at Gobekli Tepe...which went on for thousands of years, generation after generation, could have started another thousand years earlier than what they had since found. So, what this paper amounts to is evidence of an incremental increase in understanding of the site and the builders of ancient temples. The problem I have with/and the reason I don't believe in treating science as god and scientists as oracles of truth, is that scientists..especially earth scientists like archaeologists, geologists etc. feel the need to overhype any findings they come up with to keep funding coming their way. Every scientist seems to be trying to sell a product these days to keep his job and keep funding his resarch!

Klaus Schmidt did not feel such pressure for most of his years as lead archaeologist at Gobekli Tepe and allowed the artifacts and verified articles written about them to gradually be released. But, I wonder if he was feeling the pressure a few years ago..prior to his death when he made the extraordinary claims in a few interviews that Gobekli Tepe was likely the site of the "Garden of Eden" folklore traditions. There may be some reasons to ponder this notion....as Schmidt discovered, there was already the great mystery of how and why neolithic hunter-gatherers decided to start building complex stone monuments during the brief summer months there 13,000 years ago, and the even greater mystery: why did later generations decide to stop building and abandon the site 8000 years ago, after spending many generations again to bury the site under so much earth that modern explorers thought the mound overtop of Gobekli Tepe was a natural land feature? To Schmidt, the flight from Gobekli Tepe looks eerily similar to being cast of the Garden...but unless a small army of anthropologists studying ancient writings of that period and later, can produce confirming evidence, it will remain speculation! Maybe Schmidt was trying to shake the media trees also in his final years to keep attention on the site and continue the work.
https://www.ancient.eu/article/234/g...-first-temple/

What can be proven by way of missing evidence for settlements, agriculture or even garbage dumps, was that the building at Gobekli Tepe was being done for thousands of years by a conglomeration of neolithic hunter-gatherers who either could not or would not build permanent homes in the area. Keep in mind this is prior to the beginning of our Holocene Epoch, which has given us our regular stable weather cycles that have made agriculture possible in the first place. So, at the time this incredible building effort was going on, the people gathering from miles around in all directions, had to deal with rapid changes in weather-heat, cold, torrential rains, floods and droughts...which made planting grains in river valleys like the celebrated "cradles of civilization" an impossibility at the time. BUT, it's worth noting that what has been found along hillside valleys in Asia Minor and elsewhere is abundant evidence for the hybridization of many plants including grain seeds.
Long, long before the "Agricultural Revolution," all of the necessary knowledge of planting, harvesting and even hybridizing grains to produce non-shattering seed pods for food was already in place....it was just that because of the volatile weather, it was a far better strategy to plant seeds at different elevations along hillsides and check back during their migrations to see what if any had provided food to take along with them as they travelled. The travellers also planted dates and other favorite foods as they went, but the taste for grains could possibly go back at least 18,000 years...when the first evidence of hybridizing rye grains is being argued about right now. I'd like to see what paleo diet promoters have to say about this.

Anyway, add the planting and growing information with the tool development and construction techniques sophisticated enough to build large stone structures, and the evidence is overwhelming that the basic knowledge considered scientific breakthroughs a mere 5000 years ago had been in existence for thousands of years before that...by people who felt no need and no desire to be "civilized" and settle in one place. When I read stuff about our earlier ancestors, these are the subjects I would like to see further developed and explored.

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Geologists have proven years ago that through erosion that the sphinx predates known Egypt by thousands of years, most likely from the age before the event yet Egyptologists reject this. Futther more the tunnels under the sphinx have not been publicly explored. There has been a new "void" discovered in the great pyramid that goes against the newest book by leading Egyptologists. There is a lot of stuff.


Why they do it. I dont know. There is also a pyramid is south or centeral america that is still releasing energy at the same frequencies as teslas free energy theory. The tunnels beneath that one are still filled w/ water as the tunnels under the great pyramid are dry. So, the theory that i currently like is that the great pyramid was an energy source, a machine of sorts and that they have not worked it out or they have but do not want free energy for the people.


Regards, i think that an advanced society that was all but wiped out some 12,000 years ago makes a lot of sence and that a few survivors passed select knowledge to tribes of hunter gathers that took them in after the event. This would explain why their building techniques regressed over time. Something that has bothered me ever since i was a small child.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Sphinx is much older than the pyramids, since it would fit the narrative developing so far that ancient building efforts were done by travelling bands of hunter-gatherers getting together for some forms of common worship and celebration rituals that have long vanished. Maybe Stonehenge, the Sphinx, Gobekli Tepe etc. were built because neolithic hunter-gatherers enjoying a relatively easy life in the wild, wanted to get everyone together for the ancient version of Burning Man. What it's not is evidence of prior civilizations that look like the shit we've had for the past 5000 years of warfare and accumulation of wealth!
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