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Old February 18th, 2013, 03:16 AM   #11
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women can be and are as cruel as men, and much more cold blooded about it.
I don't know, I think there are cold blooded people of both genders.
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Old February 20th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #12
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This is so sad and so unnecessary. Any known previous similar behavior from that first adoptive mom? How did she become what she is? Is such behavior likely to arise in a harmonious, peaceful life? I pray to God that no one lost his life over this, that the boy Chinese baby, has ended up in a fortunate, supportive situation, that the dad rests in peace, and that the six siblings wounded by these actions will heal with pure, empathetic, loving hearts, and a familial feeling for each other, remembering always that their father loved each of them fully and would wish them to love each other like that too. Greed can be such a strong force. We must pity and even feel love and sorrow for those burdened with it. Those driven by it may have deep, powerful, imbalances and neediness that is hard for us to understand, hard for them to control. Blessings always on Emily and her second adoptive family [and on her original family for that matter]. She deserves this ruling. And blessings, healing, and increased understanding for the first adoptive mom, too.

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Old February 26th, 2013, 06:39 PM   #13
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You adoptive daughter is a fortunate girl, PN, to have an adoptive father who loves her and is present to look out for her. That is worth more then millions of $$$$ !
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 06:42 PM   #14
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I don't know, I think there are cold blooded people of both genders.
That is absolutely correct!
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Old March 4th, 2013, 05:43 AM   #15
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on second thought...

Judge not that you not be judged

and

if you can't restrain yourself, at least know the facts before you judge.
And none of us knows all the facts, only selective information that is probably not the full information and may or may not be accurate. I certainly sympathize for the children involved, but think about the mom. She was in a tough situation. Having just lost or being in the process of losing your husband to death [or any other way for that matter, but death is always pretty much the worst] and besides that having the responsibility of seven children, two of whom were not your flesh and blood, though your legal and ethical responsibility.... that is a lot, even for a supposedly wealthy individual. All people make decisions sometimes, especially when under duress, that later even they or others might find imperfect. She did what she did. She was trying to survive. Maybe she was right that the Chinese kids were better off out of there. Or maybe she did it to keep them from inheriting. But even if she did it for that reason, maybe it was still the best thing for them. This woman is not getting fully fair treatment now in the press. The Daily New article yesterday had some information/insinuations that even I who know little about the situation, know to be inaccurate and misleading. Likely the Daily News did not do that on purpose. Bottom line, unless she committed a crime... and I have heard no charges to date that she did.... this in none of the public's business. Read if you wish but be slow and careful if you feel you have to judge her. Better not to judge, I think.

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Old March 4th, 2013, 10:40 AM   #16
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I think I am qualified to judge her. She was in my group in 1997 when I adopted my daughter. My daughter has some of the same issues that Emily has. I am not rich enough to put her in that exclusive school that Christine did. I woudn't, under any circumstances give up my daughter when things get tough.
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Point taken. Was trying to keep a cool head and promote fairness. Actually the dad had been an acquaintance...adopting Chinese children was an important dream of his. I imagine he might have felt much as you do. That's part of why it is so very sad. It weighs on me that those things happened.

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Did anybody catch that Christine adopted a Chinese boy in 1997 - one year AFTER adopting Emily. I know, I was there in China with her. I wonder if she had rejected him too.
She did! I adopted him after he lived with her for one year!
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She did! I adopted him after he lived with her for one year!
Tell us all about it! And how he is doing now...........
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