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Old September 22nd, 2017, 05:58 AM   #321
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The political and economic systems are still based on a patriarchal framework that had been liberalized for a couple of generations to try to balance out some of the avaricious tendencies of capitalism...that favours the rich over the poor and the strong over the weak, but for the past 30 years, we have been heading backwards to the old ways.

So, like I said before, you should expect that a lot of women who want to live the good life, and don't have advantages of a university education and rich parents to fall back on, will become hustlers looking for rubes who think they can buy easy sex on the cheap....and then you can continue complaining about all the women who are lying!
In the USA more women than men go to college. Women own the majority of wealth in the USA. Attractive women in the workplace routinely use sex as a weapon with impunity.
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In the USA more women than men go to college. Women own the majority of wealth in the USA. Attractive women in the workplace routinely use sex as a weapon with impunity.
Oh, cut the bullshit for christs sakes! How do you think you can get away with an idiotic statement that women own more wealth than men after we all learn recently that three assholes: Gates, Zuckerberg and Bezos own more wealth than the bottom half of the US population?(where are the guillotines when you need them!)

And the number of female college applicants doesn't inform us about the trajectory from college applicant to post-grad and actually working in the fields they're trained for and more important: actually earning the same pay as men in the field! It's still the same story last time anyone checked and likely getting worse now: the higher you go up the professional foodchain, the fewer women there are earning high salaries compared to men.

Regardless, talking college and university is not my primary interest cause we're already talking about the higher economic class levels that people of modest means cannot aspire to, because they have to get out and start making money as soon as they're finished school OR they know in advance that they'll never be able to afford that Ivy League education without turning their lives over for the next 30 years as indentured servants to the debt collectors!

So, my concerns focus more on the settings I'm familiar with- the workplace, because we(both union and mgmt) were blindsided by how bad the problem would become after the first female applicants started coming in(excepting the office staff of course).

I've mentioned it before....right in this thread that it took years before we(those of us who aren't sexual predators) started becoming aware there were harassment and worse problems that were not being presented to either the union executive or management! So, if some clueless boob...as I've noticed lately with the fallout from the #metoo campaign, declares "why did they wait so long unless they're making it all up," this is the typical pattern for women moving into men's and formerly men's spaces. They want to get along/they don't want to make waves, and many, many times they start accumulating psychological or emotional problems until they declare they just cannot bring themselves to go in to work.

Am I surprised that there are so many sexual predators running a range of behavioral types and attitudes...everything from Harvey Weinstein to Louis CK, from Judge Roy Moore to Bill Clinton and his inheritor- Donald Trump? Absolutely NOT! For some twisted bizarre reasons, so many men...even in high places with obscene amounts of money are usually inclined to predation would still rather hunt down and compromise usually young women(and boys) rather than use their money to buy the sexual services they want from a professional sex worker. Maybe they do that too, but predation and victimizing young women gives them special thrills that a professional cannot...I suppose.

The story you're trying to present: that hot chicks use sex to either entrap men or try to work their way up to the top is atypical, and what's usually happening is a young girl who's trying to make it and hold down a job wants to cooperate as much as possible so as not to offend lecherous older guys who have trouble getting it up without pills.

In the case of sexual harassment and sexual predation that we've been hearing about for decades: the Hollywood "casting couch," the stories of predation that went on for decades of major Hollywood producers and directors giving young actresses a choice between work or nothing depending on how well they satisfy them off set, was all brought back to life by Harvey Weinstein and his infamous side career recently! Many Hollywood stars of the past have previously confessed that certain moguls gave them the same choice and they decided that they would have to put up with it...at least temporarily until they became stars and could demand better treatment. And unfortunately by that time, they were past 30 and would be struggling to get good work in an industry that allows men to age, while older women are immediately consigned to the small roles as mother or grandmother of the star etc.. Since Holllywood is the most well known case of "women sleeping their way to the top," we have a chance to examine the whole process, and see that it's set up by powerful men, managed and continued by men, while the women who end up tagged as sluts were just doing what they felt they had to to succeed. So what has changed today in other realms?
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EXACTLY what I was thinking. LORD love a GOAT......what is up with this topic??
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Oh, cut the bullshit for christs sakes! How do you think you can get away with an idiotic statement that women own more wealth than men after we all learn recently that three assholes: Gates, Zuckerberg and Bezos own more wealth than the bottom half of the US population?(where are the guillotines when you need them!)

And the number of female college applicants doesn't inform us about the trajectory from college applicant to post-grad and actually working in the fields they're trained for and more important: actually earning the same pay as men in the field! It's still the same story last time anyone checked and likely getting worse now: the higher you go up the professional foodchain, the fewer women there are earning high salaries compared to men.

Regardless, talking college and university is not my primary interest cause we're already talking about the higher economic class levels that people of modest means cannot aspire to, because they have to get out and start making money as soon as they're finished school OR they know in advance that they'll never be able to afford that Ivy League education without turning their lives over for the next 30 years as indentured servants to the debt collectors!

So, my concerns focus more on the settings I'm familiar with- the workplace, because we(both union and mgmt) were blindsided by how bad the problem would become after the first female applicants started coming in(excepting the office staff of course).

I've mentioned it before....right in this thread that it took years before we(those of us who aren't sexual predators) started becoming aware there were harassment and worse problems that were not being presented to either the union executive or management! So, if some clueless boob...as I've noticed lately with the fallout from the #metoo campaign, declares "why did they wait so long unless they're making it all up," this is the typical pattern for women moving into men's and formerly men's spaces. They want to get along/they don't want to make waves, and many, many times they start accumulating psychological or emotional problems until they declare they just cannot bring themselves to go in to work.

Am I surprised that there are so many sexual predators running a range of behavioral types and attitudes...everything from Harvey Weinstein to Louis CK, from Judge Roy Moore to Bill Clinton and his inheritor- Donald Trump? Absolutely NOT! For some twisted bizarre reasons, so many men...even in high places with obscene amounts of money are usually inclined to predation would still rather hunt down and compromise usually young women(and boys) rather than use their money to buy the sexual services they want from a professional sex worker. Maybe they do that too, but predation and victimizing young women gives them special thrills that a professional cannot...I suppose.

The story you're trying to present: that hot chicks use sex to either entrap men or try to work their way up to the top is atypical, and what's usually happening is a young girl who's trying to make it and hold down a job wants to cooperate as much as possible so as not to offend lecherous older guys who have trouble getting it up without pills.

In the case of sexual harassment and sexual predation that we've been hearing about for decades: the Hollywood "casting couch," the stories of predation that went on for decades of major Hollywood producers and directors giving young actresses a choice between work or nothing depending on how well they satisfy them off set, was all brought back to life by Harvey Weinstein and his infamous side career recently! Many Hollywood stars of the past have previously confessed that certain moguls gave them the same choice and they decided that they would have to put up with it...at least temporarily until they became stars and could demand better treatment. And unfortunately by that time, they were past 30 and would be struggling to get good work in an industry that allows men to age, while older women are immediately consigned to the small roles as mother or grandmother of the star etc.. Since Holllywood is the most well known case of "women sleeping their way to the top," we have a chance to examine the whole process, and see that it's set up by powerful men, managed and continued by men, while the women who end up tagged as sluts were just doing what they felt they had to to succeed. So what has changed today in other realms?
May I add to what you said, that when a psychology professor told his class that women who go at night want to be raped, I didn't think to report him to the higher levels at the college because no one would have cared. Only recently has anyone paid attention to the objections made by females.

When a male employer was sexually aggressive I just clung to the rules of dressing modestly and never being alone with a man.

When I reported an employer to the labor bureau and explained this employer told me to screen out job applicants who were not young and attractive, I was told nothing could be done unless an applicant filed a suit, but those female applicants had no way of knowing what the employer instructed me to do. I was very disappointed that nothing happened, but het that is the way things were.

Not that long ago, it was a different world, and personally, I am amazed and glad to see a change.

PS. My mother moved my sister and I from Washington to Hollywood, California because she wanted to be in movies. She was given the choice of put out or get out and she left the interview. Amazingly she was not expecting that barrier to getting a job.
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