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Old February 18th, 2018, 04:43 PM   #371
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Athena, I NEVER said "NEVER" in reference to women crying "rape". I said IT IS RARE. There are MANY MANY more women who don't say anything. I was one of those victims. Eventually, I told my mother and she said "NO WAY"--HE is such a nice boy from such a nice family." End of discussion. I never brought it up again.

So the nice boy from the nice family WAS never accused. Never investigated. Never arrested. Never did a single day in jail.

As you can tell, I FEEL very strongly about this subject. I taught young women in public school who had suffered abuse. I could tell you stories that would curl your hair. Stepfathers--brothers--step brothers--crazy uncles....you name it. The men IN THE FAMILY did it.

Please do your research and stop believing the poor guys who act so innocent. Many are NOT.
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Old February 18th, 2018, 04:57 PM   #372
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Todo ser humano é mentiroso - Every human being is a liar.
That's a very bleak view of humans. What do we have to aspire to, then?
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Old February 20th, 2018, 08:12 PM   #373
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Me too! I'm the youngest and also the first man in my family who did feedings and changed diapers when my two were little. So, some things have changed for the better....I miss the days when I was taking my kids to the park and on hikes....I guess that's why we end up buying dogs! They enjoy everything in life just like young children!


In the book I referenced earlier: Red Hangover by Kristen Ghodsee, she mentions that despite a wide range of successes in improving quality of life in communist East Germany and Bulgaria, one of the failures was that married women were still mostly responsible for picking up the kids at the daycare after work and making supper and cleaning for the family after everyone got home, while the men mostly went out to bars and coffee shops to socialize. Either the communist party authorities thought this was how things were supposed to be...in spite of the official rhetoric of womens liberation, or the mostly men running the parties didn't consider it a big enough social issue.


From what I've read on anthropology studies on all continents, it seems patriarchy takes off when hunting is replaced by animal husbandry...especially herding livestock. In North American and Neolithic settlements of Eurasia, women did most of the planting, gathering and harvesting, while the men did hunting and fishing...though in many cultures women living in small settlements did a lot of snaring of small game...like rabbits. This early agricultural model typically divided power between men and women, where women ran household and village life while men looked after issues on the periphery...like deciding if and when moving would be necessary, defense from invaders in times of higher population density, but it seems the transition to male dominated cultural norms started after: tending animals and...another very important, mostly unrecognized factor...our ancients didn't have a clear concept of 'paternity certainty'...in other words, many 20th century wild hunter-gatherers often believed that every man a woman had sex with prior to pregnancy had a share in fatherhood! Not until the realization that one man, and only one man can be the father, is there a motivation to add women to the growing list of property, along with animals, to be accumulated as personal wealth....just like in the Bible!

In a world where keeping a man is not a life or death matter, women can be free to not care if a guy is husband material. What's funny is that the "pickup artists" like the asshole complaining about Danish women I mentioned before, being aggressive and even asking about penis size before they engage the sex negotiations any further, just makes these guys shrivel up! There is so much given away that a pickup artist...or someone who thinks he is has a fragile ego, and can only handle women he can view as prey/rather than competitive sex negotiators!
You hit upon what could be a touchy matter. Men complain that all women want is money, but in our modern world, that money is essential for survival and as our populations increase and we room out of for growth, that competition is getting harder. The result of hooking up with a man who is not highly motivated and is not competitive for money, can mean a serious survival problem.

Plenty of women putting "love" first, or just out for the party, end up on welfare because the deadbeat father can't support the family, or just won't. Far too many guys are fine with the woman they got pregnant living on welfare, and raising the child without him. I like speaking of survival and how bad this is for the children! These children have a far harder time doing well is school and therefore, they are lucky to minimum wage jobs that will never lead to owning a home. Not that all men with money are better, but like a peacock that struts his feathers maybe a woman should pay attention?
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Old February 20th, 2018, 08:16 PM   #374
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That's a very bleak view of humans. What do we have to aspire to, then?
I think it matters what people lie about. When a woman asks if she looks fat in a dress, being too honest is not a good thing. However, if she asks, have you paid the car insurance and you haven't, that is a very bad time to lie.
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Don't talk about cats! This morning I had a misunderstanding with a co-worker. He mentioned his cat and I said I was badly clawed by a cat last Monday when I was gently carrying him to his food. He suggested perhaps the cat didn't think I was being gentle, and I began seething. I heard he thought the cat clawed me because I was rough with it and that he cared more about the cat than me. That was not what he thought he said.

I am explaining this here because sometimes it is assumed the problem is women or the problem is men, or maybe we will agree the problem is being human, but for the sake of argument, we come across as one-sided, in favor of men or in favor of women.

It isn't always what we say that is wrong, but how it is interpreted can be different from our meaning. We might want to be aware of that when we jump online looking for an argument.

How many times do our prejudices lead to misunderstandings that lead to attacks or defensiveness? Like assuming if a human has a problem with a cat, it is the human's fault, or it a person has a problem with someone of a different gender it is because something is wrong with women, or something is wrong with men. How aware are we of our prejudices?
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We should always talk about cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That's a very bleak view of humans. What do we have to aspire to, then?
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It is not a vision, but a reality.

Não é uma visão,mas é uma realidade.
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We should always talk about cats!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like cats, I have one in my house is a female and she is very sweet.
Can you read Portuguese only that you can not speak, just say miau miau.


Eu gosto de gatos,tenho um em minha casa é uma femea e é muito meiga.
Sabe ler português só que não sabe falar,só diz miau miau.




his name is Chana only drinks water in the bidet with the faucet open, is 10 years old.
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I like cats, I have one in my house is a female and she is very sweet.
Can you read Portuguese only that you can not speak, just say miau miau.


Eu gosto de gatos,tenho um em minha casa é uma femea e é muito meiga.
Sabe ler português só que não sabe falar,só diz miau miau.




his name is Chana only drinks water in the bidet with the faucet open, is 10 years old.
So cute! My girl cat loves water from the bathtub lol.

Oh and i can say oi Avlis, beijos! That is about all of my Portugese lol
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Hi, friend Lyzza, good morning, with great joy.
Do you already know how to write Portuguese congratulations? ( Kisses » Beijos)
Thank you so much, kisses for you, I also offer these beautiful flowers.

Em português - In portuguese

Olá amiga Lyzza bom dia com muita alegria.
Voçê já sabe escrever português parabens? (Beijos» Kisses )
Muito obrigado, beijos para voçê tambem lhe ofereço estas lindas flores









A woman should never touch with a finger, if she gives a flower pot. Even when she lies.

A uma mulher nunca se deve tocar com um dedo,se dá um vaso de flores.Mesmo quando elas mentem.
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