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Old November 19th, 2014, 11:44 AM   #41
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You favor high taxation. You favor a government telling people what they must purchase. You oppose the idea of self government. Therefore you can run but you cant hide. You are a socialist. That alone makes you scum and an enemy of the state as for as I am concerned. My niece and her friends learn just fine. They learn the truth from me, not socialist propaganda and a way to justify being pos thieves
Maybe she declares all her tips???? If she does, my hat's off to her. I don't know HOW many waiters and waitresses there are on this planet...zillions, I guess...but she'd be the ONLY one that did.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 11:47 AM   #42
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Not if those decent wages are taken out of the obscene salaries their exec's receive.

But which is the more likely effect?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 11:49 AM   #43
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welfare is not charity.

and you can see the difference in how the liberals posting here relish taking money from the wealthy. they're absolutely drooling over it.

compare that to the reaction to a working man, with old shoes, a ragged coat, and a beat up truck to make sure your kids are warm and have enough to eat out of his own hard earned wages.

making judgements about other people so you feel justified taking their money is envy.

saying thank you for someone who shares with you is gratitude.

which one is a good thing? (obvious rhetorical question)
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But which is the more likely effect?
That depends upon the laws.

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Old November 19th, 2014, 01:24 PM   #45
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That depends upon the laws.

What law(s) are you advocating?
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Old November 19th, 2014, 01:30 PM   #46
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I disagree with the second statement.

People, generally, are very grateful to people who give them something. In the case of welfare the gratefullness is misplaced. It's not the bureaucrats/politicians who provide the welfare. It's the people who pay the taxes.
I think he was talking about the corporate welfare recipients and the MIC welfare recipients who push for war; you, know, the fat cats who get more in welfare than they pay in taxes and who keep buying more and more republicans to get more and more money.

Think by Numbers Government Spends More on Corporate Welfare Subsidies than Social Welfare Programs

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About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies. So, the government spent 50% more on corporate welfare than it did on food stamps and housing assistance in 2006.
That's in the republican controlled Congress. Any idea how much more Muslims will get and the communist Chinese government will get for filling the campaign coffers of the republican/teabagging party?
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welfare is not charity.

and you can see the difference in how the liberals posting here relish taking money from the wealthy. they're absolutely drooling over it.

compare that to the reaction to a working man, with old shoes, a ragged coat, and a beat up truck to make sure your kids are warm and have enough to eat out of his own hard earned wages.

making judgements about other people so you feel justified taking their money is envy.

saying thank you for someone who shares with you is gratitude.

which one is a good thing? (obvious rhetorical question)
Please explain why you think the rich deserve WELFARE? Why shouldn't the rich pay more in taxes? Who uses our roads more for transporting their goods? Our electricity for keeping their businesses open?

Explain to me the NIV God philosophy that the rich are the ones we should seek to help/.
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Old November 19th, 2014, 08:23 PM   #48
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Please explain why you think the rich deserve WELFARE? Why shouldn't the rich pay more in taxes? Who uses our roads more for transporting their goods? Our electricity for keeping their businesses open?

Explain to me the NIV God philosophy that the rich are the ones we should seek to help/.
dumb butt we are saying they don't.. we are also saying most receiving welfare today Corporate or Public assistance DON'T NEED welfare.


You are supporting the stealing of food from those in real need.
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dumb butt we are saying they don't.. we are also saying most receiving welfare today Corporate or Public assistance DON'T NEED welfare.


You are supporting the stealing of food from those in real need.
With every rort...someone that really needs it comes up wanting. I find this unconscionable........
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Not if those decent wages are taken out of the obscene salaries their exec's receive.

So....where do you set the goal post for who has obscene recompense??? Why not the middle class??? Why not $6000 a year???

A flat tax percentage is the fairest way to sort it all out. Besides, the untaxed and "obscene" remainder gets spent. Maybe someone will put a lot of people to work building a mansion with elevators in their garage for two US-built Cadillacs......
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