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Old May 2nd, 2017, 04:19 PM   #1
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The Backfire Effect

I had run into more grandiose explanations of this before, but here is a link sent to me by Mr. RNG Jr. that was forwarded to him by a Twitter friend. Hang in to the end. It's worth it.

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I had run into more grandiose explanations of this before, but here is a link sent to me by Mr. RNG Jr. that was forwarded to him by a Twitter friend. Hang in to the end. It's worth it.

You're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you - The Oatmeal


We are ALL a product or possibly by product of our upbringing, our experiences, our work, our social circles and our communities. We are emotional. We are subjective. Some of us live in very small worlds. Some of us are not educated. Some of us are followers and some are just NOT interested in politics, religion, history or civics. Some of us believe what we are told--as children, as college students and as adults. Some believe what our parents believe--what our pastors believe---what our civic leaders tell us.....and we NEVER bother to question.

I think many DTT posters are interested in history, law, politics and current events. We may not agree and may stand on different sides, but we try to fact check and source our data. We try to read or listen to different opinions and make sense of them OR at least present a decent debate point. Unfortunately the backfire effect (a name for the finding that, given evidence against their beliefs) people reject the evidence and believe it even more strongly is deeply entrenched in some of our posters.
I learn something new every day on this site and it probably comes as no surprise that I'm a big advocate of life-long learning. AND...btw, were Georgie Washington's teeth wood?? Ms. Google says his teeth were made of everything BUT wood--yes, some human teeth: The Trouble with Teeth*·*George Washington's Mount Vernon
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We are ALL a product or possibly by product of our upbringing, our experiences, our work, our social circles and our communities. We are emotional. We are subjective. Some of us live in very small worlds. Some of us are not educated. Some of us are followers and some are just NOT interested in politics, religion, history or civics. Some of us believe what we are told--as children, as college students and as adults. Some believe what our parents believe--what our pastors believe---what our civic leaders tell us.....and we NEVER bother to question.

I think many DTT posters are interested in history, law, politics and current events. We may not agree and may stand on different sides, but we try to fact check and source our data. We try to read or listen to different opinions and make sense of them OR at least present a decent debate point. Unfortunately the backfire effect (a name for the finding that, given evidence against their beliefs) people reject the evidence and believe it even more strongly is deeply entrenched in some of our posters.
I learn something new every day on this site and it probably comes as no surprise that I'm a big advocate of life-long learning. AND...btw, were Georgie Washington's teeth wood?? Ms. Google says his teeth were made of everything BUT wood--yes, some human teeth: The Trouble with Teeth*·*George Washington's Mount Vernon
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Some of us are followers...Some of us believe what we are told...and we NEVER bother to question.

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The funny thing to me is how I have morphed over the years. Even 15 years ago I was hard right on economics and welfare. I was never against gay rights or a racist. And I was never religious. But would have been a supporter of, for example Jimgorn to a large degree.

And I can't explain why I continually drifted left. I'm still against overly intrusive governments, I'm still against reckless government spending and just giving to anyone with a hand out, without some checks, balances and insistence on some type of reckoning.

I think a lot of that was through having the time to study economics and sociology, particularly criminology. As I have eluded to several times, I was a believer in consumption taxes and trickle down until I learned enough.

So why did I change and so many won't?
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What's that quote ??

“You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic.”

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The funny thing to me is how I have morphed over the years. Even 15 years ago I was hard right on economics and welfare. I was never against gay rights or a racist. And I was never religious. But would have been a supporter of, for example Jimgorn to a large degree.

And I can't explain why I continually drifted left. I'm still against overly intrusive governments, I'm still against reckless government spending and just giving to anyone with a hand out, without some checks, balances and insistence on some type of reckoning.

I think a lot of that was through having the time to study economics and sociology, particularly criminology. As I have eluded to several times, I was a believer in consumption taxes and trickle down until I learned enough.

So why did I change and so many won't?
You continued your drift because you are not a happy idiot.

You see through the bullshit, and understand while the bottom feeders on the right are pilfering billions, they are able to convince the happy idiots that it's the working poor who are the welfare collectors.
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I had run into more grandiose explanations of this before, but here is a link sent to me by Mr. RNG Jr. that was forwarded to him by a Twitter friend. Hang in to the end. It's worth it.

You're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you - The Oatmeal
Now if only more of you Liberals would read this article and practice what it portends, you might stop drinking that Kool-Aid the Democrats keep feeding you!
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Now if only more of you Liberals would read this article and practice what it portends, you might stop drinking that Kool-Aid the Democrats keep feeding you!
Is that really what you got out of that?
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Is that really what you got out of that?


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I had run into more grandiose explanations of this before, but here is a link sent to me by Mr. RNG Jr. that was forwarded to him by a Twitter friend. Hang in to the end. It's worth it.

You're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you - The Oatmeal
Yes!!! To listen and to change. Excellent! Thank you and RNG jr for sharing this.
Now there are at least a dozen billion horses that ought to take a drink from the river.
Good luck with that.
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