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Old July 2nd, 2018, 10:08 AM   #71
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Old July 2nd, 2018, 10:13 AM   #72
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Actually, I'm a college professor of drama. And I don't think I know everything - but I certainly know more than you. You haven't seen enough nor done enough to impress anybody - and certainly not enough to impress me.
And I'm a he, you silly little person.

Now fuck off, and I said before, stop posting to me - and don't send me any more fucking private messages. I'm not interested in anything you have to say.
Oh look at you whine like a little boy. You don't know anything son, you play out this made up drama in your where everything is exactly you say it is. Unfortunately it isn't. Rump isn't a "Nazi" , Rump supporters are not "Nazi's".
The truth is this, you are probably the biggest fascist you've ever seen. You prove it every day here. Coward.
For the record drama is indeed your calling.

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Old July 2nd, 2018, 10:40 AM   #73
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What exactly do you think happened?
Clinton won the popular vote.
The states that some people expected to go to Clinton but went to Trump instead were within the margin of error.
That's the problem most people don't get about those polls. The margin of error (typically +/- 3%) is there for a reason.

But regardless, polls are more trustworthy and transparent than your anonymous claims are...
You still haven't explained how you justify your claim.
Fortunately we don't go by the mob rules mentality since we live in a Constitutional-Republic. Republicans can win the popular vote and still lose as well. But Trump did win the popular vote once you factor in the millions of illegal immigrants that voted for Hillary. You have to be a U.S. citizen to vote in elections. So Democrats have been running a fraudulent campaign by the way they have manipulated our laws. We also have the electoral college so that fair elections can be carried out in all 50 states. Democrats have never complained about the electoral college until they lost in 2016. So now they want two states to decide elections for all voters in the rest of the 48 states. Sound fair to you? Should we have New York and California decide all elections? I don't think so. But if Dems want to do that all they have to do is declare a civil war in hopes their side will win. Democrats do want a civil war very badly and I don't know why this is since they have no hope or chance in winning it.

As for the polling. I watched how all the swing states had Hillary way ahead and or the clear win. Everyone was surprised to see how all those states the polls declared victory for Hillary went red. But when the polling is done by mostly all Democrats you cannot get accurate results.

So here we go again with false polls that will lead to more losses for Democrats.

"As a dog returns to its vomit,
so a fool returns to his folly."
~ Proverbs 26:11

No sign liberals have learned anything from the last election. So the beat down continues on to 2020 and 2024 where the Democrat Party become extinct due to their unwillingness to accept that Americans don't want their vision nor do they care to become a nation rooted in the occult. For the evil of liberals has been clearly observed by all those who have a clear conscience and can still think straight. By 2024 the entire socialist and occult obsession will forever guarantee losses for any party who runs on pushing the occult as the social norm in America.
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Old July 2nd, 2018, 10:50 AM   #74
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Fortunately we don't go by the mob rules mentality since we live in a Constitutional-Republic. Republicans can win the popular vote and still lose as well. But Trump did win the popular vote once you factor in the millions of illegal immigrants that voted for Hillary. You have to be a U.S. citizen to vote in elections. So Democrats have been running a fraudulent campaign by the way they have manipulated our laws. We also have the electoral college so that fair elections can be carried out in all 50 states. Democrats have never complained about the electoral college until they lost in 2016. So now they want two states to decide elections for all voters in the rest of the 48 states. Sound fair to you? Should we have New York and California decide all elections? I don't think so. But if Dems want to do that all they have to do is declare a civil war in hopes their side will win. Democrats do want a civil war very badly and I don't know why this is since they have no hope or chance in winning it.

As for the polling. I watched how all the swing states had Hillary way ahead and or the clear win. Everyone was surprised to see how all those states the polls declared victory for Hillary went red. But when the polling is done by mostly all Democrats you cannot get accurate results.

So here we go again with false polls that will lead to more losses for Democrats.

"As a dog returns to its vomit,
so a fool returns to his folly."
~ Proverbs 26:11

No sign liberals have learned anything from the last election. So the beat down continues on to 2020 and 2024 where the Democrat Party become extinct due to their unwillingness to accept that Americans don't want their vision nor do they care to become a nation rooted in the occult. For the evil of liberals has been clearly observed by all those who have a clear conscience and can still think straight. By 2024 the entire socialist and occult obsession will forever guarantee losses for any party who runs on pushing the occult as the social norm in America.
Im not buying the illegal alien voting crap until there is proof. With that said, not having a voter id law is dumb as hell. We are one of the only modern nations in the world that do not require it
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Hey genius, the Nazi's were prone to lying their asses off.

But, just for shits and grins, post links to both and we can all compare.
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Well? You going to back up your bullshit with some facts or what?
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Old July 3rd, 2018, 07:26 AM   #76
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I always laugh at why the left keeps defending the polling. Seriously, its dumb. It fucking killed you guys.
No. Polling is not dumb.
Taking it as fact and not comprehending what it actually means is dumb.

If a poll predicts John will get 51% of the vote with an error margin of +/- 3%, that means that John still has a good chance of losing.
I just pointed that out, but in your zeal to understand nothing you rush right past understanding that.


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Honesty, the polling did you in. It was arguably one of the reasons Clinton lost, maybe the largest reason. She ignored some of the states she lost in. Why? Because the polls said to.
No. Her assumptions did her in.
I remember being pissed before the election that she was going to Arizona. It looked like she wanted to swing that state and make it hurt even more.
But she made a truly dumb mistake in not shoring up the states that were too close to the margin of error...


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But, lets look at this margin of error crap. Its bull shit. The entire main stream polling predicted a electoral landslide for Hillary. That is no +- 2 to 3 points error at all.
Because people like you didn't look at the fine print.
People like me understood the fine print.

Show me a real poll that said Trump had no chance of winning. I know of none that did that.
They habitually acknowledged Trump had a chance. And they were right.

The problem is that people like you seem to think putting in a "low chance" somehow means "no chance". That's not what is said at all.

If I roll a dice, there is a 1 in 6 chance of getting a 1.
A 5 in 6 chance of getting higher than a 1.
While the odds are against getting a 1 and are for getting higher than a 1, it's dumb to fixate on that perspective cause we all know a 1 does show up.


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Its disingenuous to even parrot that crap. I honestly have no idea why you lefties keep defending the polling. It absolutely fucked you guys.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...tion-forecast/
Look at your first link.
It gave Trump over a one in four chance of winning.
That's better than my dice roll example!

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15% chance of winning.
About equivalent of my dice roll example.
Are you getting the picture yet?
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Fortunately we don't go by the mob rules mentality since we live in a Constitutional-Republic. Republicans can win the popular vote and still lose as well. But Trump did win the popular vote once you factor in the millions of illegal immigrants that voted for Hillary.
Trump makes his living off of suckers like you who blindly buy into his statements and refuse to even think about the facts...
There were investigations into this claim.
Absolutely none showed his claim to be valid.


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As for the polling. I watched how all the swing states had Hillary way ahead and or the clear win. Everyone was surprised to see how all those states the polls declared victory for Hillary went red. But when the polling is done by mostly all Democrats you cannot get accurate results.
Even Fox News was claiming Clinton would win.

Look at what I explained above.


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No sign liberals have learned anything from the last election. So the beat down continues on to 2020 and 2024 where the Democrat Party become extinct due to their unwillingness to accept that Americans don't want their vision nor do they care to become a nation rooted in the occult. For the evil of liberals has been clearly observed by all those who have a clear conscience and can still think straight. By 2024 the entire socialist and occult obsession will forever guarantee losses for any party who runs on pushing the occult as the social norm in America.
It amuses me at how many people on the right and the left buy into the crap you just did...
Our country swings back and forth on favor / disfavor for political parties. At some points in history, Republicans have more favor with the people and get more people in office.
And some Republicans claim it's all over for the Democratic party...

And then in the years afterwards the people start swinging more towards the other side and they vote more Democrat in subsequent elections. And Democrats take more spots.
And then some Democrats claim it's all over for the Republican party...

And then in the years afterwards, the people start swinging more towards the other side and they vote more Republican in subsequent elections.
And it repeats...
And it repeats...
And it repeats...


The thing many of the sheep (on both side) don't seem to grasp is that both parties habitually play this as a race of the lesser of two evils.
Last election was a prime example of that as most people hated both Clinton and Trump.
It was about which one was hated less => that person's the winner.

When one of these political parties actually put up a candidate that the party can align with and respect, that is when the other party starts to get in trouble...
(Not long-term trouble. But just more of an obvious win...)
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No. Polling is not dumb.
Taking it as fact and not comprehending what it actually means is dumb.

If a poll predicts John will get 51% of the vote with an error margin of +/- 3%, that means that John still has a good chance of losing.
I just pointed that out, but in your zeal to understand nothing you rush right past understanding that.



No. Her assumptions did her in.
I remember being pissed before the election that she was going to Arizona. It looked like she wanted to swing that state and make it hurt even more.
But she made a truly dumb mistake in not shoring up the states that were too close to the margin of error...



Because people like you didn't look at the fine print.
People like me understood the fine print.

Show me a real poll that said Trump had no chance of winning. I know of none that did that.
They habitually acknowledged Trump had a chance. And they were right.

The problem is that people like you seem to think putting in a "low chance" somehow means "no chance". That's not what is said at all.

If I roll a dice, there is a 1 in 6 chance of getting a 1.
A 5 in 6 chance of getting higher than a 1.
While the odds are against getting a 1 and are for getting higher than a 1, it's dumb to fixate on that perspective cause we all know a 1 does show up.



Look at your first link.
It gave Trump over a one in four chance of winning.
That's better than my dice roll example!


15% chance of winning.
About equivalent of my dice roll example.
Are you getting the picture yet?
Yes, but you are not getting the picture. 80% chance of winning. Were not talking about a random dice roll. We are talking about an alleged, unbiased (LMAO) scientific sampling method to deduct a percentage of win or lose chance. Even the fucking pollsters said they were wrong. Yet here you are compelled to argue with them even.

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/14/50201...rong-this-year

Why 2016 election polls missed their mark | Pew Research Center

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/u...out-trump.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.256154b543b7

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...lection-231036
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Yes, but you are not getting the picture. 80% chance of winning. Were not talking about a random dice roll. We are talking about an alleged, unbiased (LMAO) scientific sampling method to deduct a percentage of win or lose chance. Even the fucking pollsters said they were wrong. Yet here you are compelled to argue with them even.

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/14/50201...rong-this-year

Why 2016 election polls missed their mark | Pew Research Center

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/31/u...out-trump.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.256154b543b7

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...lection-231036


If you put "science" in the name and/or description of anything and the leftists get all moist over it and it suddenly becomes infallible. Just like the religious and "god says"

It is epically sad.
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Well? You going to back up your bullshit with some facts or what?
Has he ever?
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