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Old October 7th, 2017, 07:58 AM   #31
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Stop and show some decency.
they can't show what they don't have
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Old October 7th, 2017, 08:28 AM   #32
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So true. I am just not used to some of the filth spewed on this forum but have learned that there is no "LOWEST" in low...and I have learned all kinds of neat stuff.

*Respect is silly. Manners? What's that? Anyhoo--it's all PC crap.
*Women are a lower life form.
*Guns ROCK!
*Everyone is a racist except for the real racists who don't seem to KNOW they are racist.
*White men are discriminated against.
*There's no such thing as white privilege.
*Minorities are lazy leeches.
*No one really needs health care unless they can afford to pay for it themselves.
*Wealthy people deserve more. Poor people deserve less.
*Educators and higher education sucks. Who needs it?
*Trump was chosen by God.

AND.....so much more. So, thanks DTT for the enlightenment. I'll continue to read, post and learn.
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Old October 7th, 2017, 08:43 AM   #33
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Not everyone...but a lot of people are, which is exactly what you should expect in a country with the history of the US.

It's better now than it was, it will be better in the future than it is now.

But as a guy once said to me, "How long do you want to wait for your rights?"

That's what it comes down to, there are people in this country who are being denied their rights.

And the pathetic reaction is "hey don't we have a right to act on our racist, homophobic, chauvinist beliefs?"


The sad thing is that you believe that. How easily the weak minded are persuaded.
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Old October 7th, 2017, 08:47 AM   #34
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O.M.G.!! A woman with brains and an opinion??? God forbid. There are so many points to be made here, I hardly know where to begin....but let's start with this.
1) Michelle Obama stated a fact. Everything she said is absolutely true. The GOP is mostly all white and all men. In fact, Congress is mostly all white and all men. There's nothing racist about that statement because it's a FACT, Jack. If you want stats, I can provide them.

2) Michelle Obama is a private citizen who can say whatever she wants....just like every asshat on DTT does every day. First Amendment? Oh, that's right. We the people can only use the First Amendment when the RW says it's okay.

3) Michelle Obama knows racism well. She and her family experienced first hand when they faced an onslaught of racist/sexist name-calling: ape in heels, black transgender--actually a black man, gorilla face, she should be let loose in Zimbabwe, Bill O'Reilly's "lynching party against Michelle Obama", Michelle, My Butt from Breitbart, Limbaugh's 'She should look like an Ethiopian'.........

4) AND the cartoons. Don't pretend you didn't see them. The Ape Family, the endless depictions of bananas offered to the Obamas, Obama's weight/size, her sleeveless dresses, her fluency in "ghetto" and the fist bumps.......

5)AND now we have Melania. Should I start a thread on Melania Trump?? Or do you want to shut up about Michelle Obama and every other first lady? The testosterone/misogyny on DTT is disgusting. The white maleness on DTT is also disgusting. Don't you boys have mothers? sisters? daughters? wives?

Our First Ladies should be elevated to a position of respect, just for having to put up with at least FOUR years of disrespect from people like you. They watch as their husbands are vilified. Some have watched as their husbands were shot and killed. They did NOT sign up for the job. They are criticized for everything they say and do--for every dress they wear--every shoe they purchase--every hairstyle & move they make. They are condemned for traveling as ambassadors. They are faulted for their projects. They are slammed for spending money on WH decor, vacations, and state dinners. AND Michelle Obama (as our first African American First Lady) was treated like some kind of disease by some.

Stop and show some decency.

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The sad thing is that you believe that. How easily the weak minded are persuaded.
You really don't get the irony in this post , do you?
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Old October 7th, 2017, 09:08 AM   #36
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So true. I am just not used to some of the filth spewed on this forum but have learned that there is no "LOWEST" in low...and I have learned all kinds of neat stuff.

*Respect is silly. Manners? What's that? Anyhoo--it's all PC crap.
*Women are a lower life form.
*Guns ROCK!
*Everyone is a racist except for the real racists who don't seem to KNOW they are racist.
*White men are discriminated against.
*There's no such thing as white privilege.
*Minorities are lazy leeches.
*No one really needs health care unless they can afford to pay for it themselves.
*Wealthy people deserve more. Poor people deserve less.
*Educators and higher education sucks. Who needs it?
*Trump was chosen by God.

AND.....so much more. So, thanks DTT for the enlightenment. I'll continue to read, post and learn.
- you cannot force someone to respect you. This PC culture is cancer

-i think that you are confusing Americans w/ Muslims

- cultural Marxism

- who says that?

- i think the word you ment to use there is entitled

- again your terminology is off here or maybe you could explain what you mean by
"deserves"

- your god, i guess you would know
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You really don't get the irony in this post , do you?
I dunno. It must really suck where you live. I have never really experienced racism or maybe i did but i was a pretty shitty kid and ran w/ a rough crowd. I guess i just assumed all of the profiling was justified. I do get a bit freaked out when we go to Oklahoma but that is more of a cultural thing.

Since i got older i have moved around the country and never really experienced racism or profiling though i dress well and speak proper english as do the majority of my non white associates and family members.

I guess racist people see the world thru racist lenses.
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So true. I am just not used to some of the filth spewed on this forum but have learned that there is no "LOWEST" in low...and I have learned all kinds of neat stuff.

*Respect is silly. Manners? What's that? Anyhoo--it's all PC crap.
*Women are a lower life form.
*Guns ROCK!
*Everyone is a racist except for the real racists who don't seem to KNOW they are racist.
*White men are discriminated against.
*There's no such thing as white privilege.
*Minorities are lazy leeches.
*No one really needs health care unless they can afford to pay for it themselves.
*Wealthy people deserve more. Poor people deserve less.
*Educators and higher education sucks. Who needs it?
*Trump was chosen by God.

AND.....so much more. So, thanks DTT for the enlightenment. I'll continue to read, post and learn.
I mentioned elsewhere that a number of upper class thinkers a little over two centuries ago realized they had to move beyond ignoring the poor after they were traumatized by the French Revolution and feared facing a similar fate. There were some...what would be described today as liberal reformers, who felt that making some concessions to the poor growing working classes would solve the problem, but what the trend was established that today runs the gamut of rightwing thinking- who believed that NOTHING much needed to be done for lower classes as long as enough of them could be brought onboard by identity and cultural arguments for continued obedience to the ruling classes.

So we have the myths of meritocracy...as best expressed by Donald Trump's new best friend- Robert Mercer...who believes that accumulated wealth and the lack thereof are the perfect descriptors of a person's individual self-worth. There are not many suckers who are not at least on track for six figure incomes who will go along with this bullshit today, and that's when the right starts descending more and more to fascism...and all of those fears, hatreds, contempts, and feelings of superiority over others go from a whisper and a dogwhistle to being loudly shouted by the leaders and their supporters in the streets. So, as I've said a few times, I don't see Donald Trump as any sort of mistake or anomaly in American politics today...instead, he's a man who's time has come. And when a smarter, more purposeful and energetic despot takes the reigns of power...then you got REAL problems! So, for now, it's the aggrieved, angry rightwingers who are closely following your checklist and have a range of other grievances against everyone standing in their way of "taking America back."

It's the same strategy everywhere! Yesterday, I was listening to the most recent episode of Doug Henwood's long-running left show- Behind the News. In the first segment, guest Joel Schalit discusses the rise of the far right in Germany, and provides insights that only come from someone who's lived there and observed the politics for a long time. What we have not been told through the brief, glossed over reports of the German Election is that the anger towards center-right and center-left parties that have ruled Germany for decades has mostly been scooped by far right-fascists..especially in eastern Germany, where the majority of people have never enjoyed the benefits of a unified Germany, but instead of democracy, got neoliberal capitalism..with west German and foreign investors coming in and taking over their industries and buying up land and resources available. What jumped out at me is that it's another example of how centrist liberals once again have no common language to address the economic concerns of lower class working people as they focus their attention on symbolic and identity issues. And the right swoops in and gets people already who are angry on their side by appealing to their darker impulses, just as the Trumpists have done in America today!
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I dunno. It must really suck where you live. I have never really experienced racism or maybe i did but i was a pretty shitty kid and ran w/ a rough crowd. I guess i just assumed all of the profiling was justified. I do get a bit freaked out when we go to Oklahoma but that is more of a cultural thing.

Since i got older i have moved around the country and never really experienced racism or profiling though i dress well and speak proper english as do the majority of my non white associates and family members.

I guess racist people see the world thru racist lenses.
So you're saying you live in the United States, and you've never seen racism?
Not even a little bit?
You just might be the least perceptive person I have ever encountered.
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You cannot force someone to respect you. Respect should be given freely until we know the character of those we gave it to.

This PC culture is cancer. Political Correctness is something invented by the RW fringe. It doesn't even have a definition. It's a slippery concept that the Right pulls out when they need a defense mechanism. Opposition to political correctness has proved itself a highly effective form of crypto-politics. It's a growing intolerance and I'm surprised YOU of all people (the anarchist) just eat it up.

-i think that you are confusing Americans w/ Muslims. Do you actually think that your daughters will be treated with the same respect as their white male counterparts? That they will receive equal treatment--equal pay--equal rights? AND if they go into politics or marry into politics, Daddy, do you want their picture photoshopped into an ape?

- cultural Marxism Again? AND Again? There's the same old tired phrase every time someone disagrees with the RW mantras. Should I turn around and call you a Fascist??

- who says that? Racists NEVER EVER think they are racist, but they are. We've seen plenty of examples on DTT.

- i think the word you meant to use there is entitled. If the word entitled makes you happier then let's go with that. Great. Fine. Entitled.

- again your terminology is off here or maybe you could explain what you mean by
"deserves". My terminology is just peachy. The wealthy think they earned it--no matter HOW they got it--because they are special. Look at Trump.

- your god, i guess you would know. God is not MY God. God is everyone's God if they want God. Obviously, you aren't interested or couldn't think of anything more clever to say.

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