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Old November 29th, 2017, 07:52 PM   #11
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I also think it is time for women to be held more responsible. This waiting many years to bring a formal complaint lessens the credibility of that complaint. As I understand it, only Murder and Treason have no statue of limitations.
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You know what happened when women came forward in the past?
Nothing, they got dissed and they got ignored.
They lost their jobs, their families suffered.

Look at what's happening in Alabama now, even though there's lots of women telling the same story, with no connection, using their real names, you have a right wing smear campaign, accusing them of lying.
Statute of limitations vary, there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault in Alabama now, but that only applies to crimes that occurred after the statute was removed.
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Old November 30th, 2017, 04:25 AM   #12
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Are you shittin' me?
You know what happened when women came forward in the past?
Nothing, they got dissed and they got ignored.
They lost their jobs, their families suffered.

Look at what's happening in Alabama now, even though there's lots of women telling the same story, with no connection, using their real names, you have a right wing smear campaign, accusing them of lying.
Statute of limitations vary, there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault in Alabama now, but that only applies to crimes that occurred after the statute was removed.
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Old November 30th, 2017, 07:20 AM   #13
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Are you shittin' me?
You know what happened when women came forward in the past?
Nothing, they got dissed and they got ignored.
They lost their jobs, their families suffered.

Look at what's happening in Alabama now, even though there's lots of women telling the same story, with no connection, using their real names, you have a right wing smear campaign, accusing them of lying.
Statute of limitations vary, there is no statute of limitations on sexual assault in Alabama now, but that only applies to crimes that occurred after the statute was removed.
I fully understand the past. But, are you telling me that these 20 and 40 year gaps between supposed incident and actual reporting of the incident makes them more credible?
I'm not defending the actions of either parties. Men need to stop, and women are going to have to step up sooner to formally complain.
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Old December 8th, 2017, 03:05 AM   #14
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I fully understand the past. But, are you telling me that these 20 and 40 year gaps between supposed incident and actual reporting of the incident makes them more credible?
I'm not defending the actions of either parties. Men need to stop, and women are going to have to step up sooner to formally complain.
I'm saying that when these things occurred, it was made clear to these women that if they made trouble, they would pay, their families would pay.
So they buried it and moved on.
Then a short while ago, the wall showed cracks, and then it collapsed, and women could put out these stories, and finally get some satisfaction.
Even though, in Alabama and in the deeply "conservative" parts of the country, they will still suffer push back.

What makes these stories credible is the placement of these women.
This is a small town, these women are using their real names, they have lived there their whole lives, that's not what a scam looks like.
The stories intertwine in ways no scam artist could put together.
And the volume of the stories, makes it highly unlikely that this is a smear campaign based on falsehoods.

And the big kicker is the asshole who is in the center of all this.
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I fully understand the past. But, are you telling me that these 20 and 40 year gaps between supposed incident and actual reporting of the incident makes them more credible?
I'm not defending the actions of either parties. Men need to stop, and women are going to have to step up sooner to formally complain.
i think you are right, but western society has only just got to the point that this can happen without the woman in question being turned into the victim. in the 1970s if someone slapped a womans butt and she didnt like it the response from other men and women was "meh, get over it". if she pushed the issue everyone called her a slut.

that will probably change. if a woman in 2050 comes out with similar allegations about a mans behaviour in 2017 it will probably be questioned unless she had a very good reason for not saying something today.
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Old December 11th, 2017, 04:21 PM   #16
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I fully understand the past. But, are you telling me that these 20 and 40 year gaps between supposed incident and actual reporting of the incident makes them more credible?
I'm not defending the actions of either parties. Men need to stop, and women are going to have to step up sooner to formally complain.
Looking at society then and now, as well as the #metoo movement, it may not make them more credible, but it certainly doesn't make it less credible.
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there is an australian TV personality, Don Burke, who is in this position at the moment. lots of people coming out with stories of vile behaviour, vile talk, nothing criminal, just that he is a revolting human being. some have claimed they did raise the issue with the tv network at the time, and they were told tough, he is too big a money earner for the station, he can do what he likes, we are not disciplining him or doing anything, we cant afford to piss him off.
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