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Old January 28th, 2018, 01:40 PM   #1
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Next up: Fake video and soundbites

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Fake news: you ain’t seen nothing yet

EARLIER this year Françoise Hardy, a French musician, appeared in a YouTube video (see link). She is asked, by a presenter off-screen, why President Donald Trump sent his press secretary, Sean Spicer, to lie about the size of the inauguration crowd. First, Ms Hardy argues. Then she says Mr Spicer “gave alternative facts to that”. It’s all a little odd, not least because Françoise Hardy (pictured), who is now 73, looks only 20, and the voice coming out of her mouth belongs to Kellyanne Conway, an adviser to Mr Trump.

The video, called “Alternative Face v1.1”, is the work of Mario Klingemann, a German artist. It plays audio from an NBC interview with Ms Conway through the mouth of Ms Hardy’s digital ghost. The video is wobbly and pixelated; a competent visual-effects shop could do much better. But Mr Klingemann did not fiddle with editing software to make it. Instead, he took only a few days to create the clip on a desktop computer using a generative adversarial network (GAN), a type of machine-learning algorithm. His computer spat it out automatically after being force fed old music videos of Ms Hardy. It is a recording of something that never happened.
We desperately need laws with harsh penalties. I don't know how this can be reconciled with free speech but something must be done.

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Old January 28th, 2018, 03:05 PM   #2
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Trump is an ass and an exorbitant Showman who was ebullient about how many people showed up for his party. .....

No hum. I’m over it.
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Old January 28th, 2018, 03:25 PM   #3
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Trump is an ass and an exorbitant Showman who was ebullient about how many people showed up for his party. .....

No hum. I’m over it.
Are you that desperate to up your post count?
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Old January 28th, 2018, 03:35 PM   #4
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We desperately need laws with harsh penalties. I don't know how this can be reconciled with free speech but something must be done.

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Unfortunately, laws are made to broken and repeatedly.

I remember when childhood was semi magical and becoming an adult was a dream. Well, what a f##king nightmare its turned out to be.
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Old January 28th, 2018, 03:54 PM   #5
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Unfortunately, laws are made to broken and repeatedly.

I remember when childhood was semi magical and becoming an adult was a dream. Well, what a f##king nightmare its turned out to be.
Well defined laws with strong sanctions applied more often than not will be effective.
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Old January 30th, 2018, 06:21 AM   #6
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We desperately need laws with harsh penalties. I don't know how this can be reconciled with free speech but something must be done.

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We already have laws against slander, false testimony/faked evidence and libel. Faked videos would fall in this category.
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Old January 30th, 2018, 11:17 AM   #7
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We already have laws against slander, false testimony/faked evidence and libel. Faked videos would fall in this category.
But recourse is only civil. And I was told by a US lawyer that "material harm" must be shown to win a judgement and that pretty well means direct monetary harm. More indirect forms of harm should be included.
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