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Old February 14th, 2018, 09:41 AM   #1
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An Oregon legislator has resigned because his female colleagues have objected to him touchy them. We seem to running a fever resulting in an overreaction to normal male behavior. We have been discussing this in the thread about women lying, but many dropped out of that thread, and I hope more people will come back to the discussion.

For sure plenty of you will jump me for making little of men's unwanted aggression on women, but which one of you is favor of strong media censorship? Because of the discussion we have had, I am seeing old TV comedies in a new light, and hey, time and time again shows like MASH, Gomer Pyle, Mama's Family and others are about men trying to get women in bed, or women throwing themselves at men. Men I have admired like Alan Alda in MASH are now pissing me off because of their 4F behavior. That is- find them, feel them, fuck them and forget them. For many years we have laughed at their behavior and we have very much liked them, and now we are forcing men out of their careers because they touch a woman?

Okay if it is so wrong for a man to touch a woman, let us return to the 1950 censorship of media and stop making these 4F men popular. Don't make role models that we do not want men to immediate. And check out John Wayne movies and how he treated women. Is he a good role model? Do you like what see here or does it piss you off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_JqltsgPM

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Old February 14th, 2018, 10:28 AM   #2
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There comes a time in EVERY thread when most of us get to an impasse or start debating in a circuitous cycle. So the thread ends. You and I are never going to agree, Athena....so we must agree to disagree and move on.
But....I will spin this bottle one more time.

When you state this: We seem to [be] running a fever resulting in an overreaction to normal male behavior. I want to reach through the screen--all the way to Oregon--and shake you.....and shout "THIS IS NOT NORMAL MALE BEHAVIOR". "THIS IS NOT OVERREACTION." Okay--I think I'm out of steam now. LOL

But, I will point out: 1) Times HAVE changed. Media has changed. Comedy has changed.
2) Women are just SICK of the WHOLE thing and its high time--HIGH TIME to stand our ground.

Here's a saying that I love.

Strong women: May we know them. May we be them. May we raise them.
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Old February 14th, 2018, 01:23 PM   #3
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Athena, I think you are confusing 'normal male desires' with 'acceptable male behavior'.

When I was young it was 'normal' for male bosses to put their arms around a female employee and press his fingers into the side of her breast. It was 'normal' because there wasn't a damn thing the woman could do about it if she wanted to keep her job. The fact that it was 'normal' in no way, shape or form made it 'acceptable'.

It's the 21st century and by now men should have evolved enough, be educated enough, and aware enough to know that touching someone else against their will is not acceptable.

As far as what it shown on television goes......the majority of programs are entertainment. Not instructions for how to live and behave. Emulating the characters we see on television is understandable in children, not in adults.
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An Oregon legislator has resigned because his female colleagues have objected to him touchy them. We seem to running a fever resulting in an overreaction to normal male behavior. We have been discussing this in the thread about women lying, but many dropped out of that thread, and I hope more people will come back to the discussion.

For sure plenty of you will jump me for making little of men's unwanted aggression on women, but which one of you is favor of strong media censorship? Because of the discussion we have had, I am seeing old TV comedies in a new light, and hey, time and time again shows like MASH, Gomer Pyle, Mama's Family and others are about men trying to get women in bed, or women throwing themselves at men. Men I have admired like Alan Alda in MASH are now pissing me off because of their 4F behavior. That is- find them, feel them, fuck them and forget them. For many years we have laughed at their behavior and we have very much liked them, and now we are forcing men out of their careers because they touch a woman?

Okay if it is so wrong for a man to touch a woman, let us return to the 1950 censorship of media and stop making these 4F men popular. Don't make role models that we do not want men to immediate. And check out John Wayne movies and how he treated women. Is he a good role model? Do you like what see here or does it piss you off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50_JqltsgPM
Only a man fool would touch a woman when she does not want it......
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[QUOTE=urbrother;1142057]Only a man fool would touch a woman when she does not want it......[/QUOTE

Only a woman fool would believe she can advertise her flesh and not be touched by a man fool....
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Old February 14th, 2018, 02:18 PM   #6
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That's what men do, try to get a woman into bed. I don't see anything wrong with that. It's the nature of the beast. Now if a woman says no, well that should be the end of it. Why pursue someone who doesn't want you? But you guys seem to want to penalize a guy for even trying to score with a particular woman. How much fun would it be if there was a dance but all the men were prohibited from asking a girl/woman to dance, let alone, God forbid, touch their shoulder, hips, or hand? It appears that that's where things are headed.

Maybe you women would be happier if all the men were gay and just left you ladies alone.

By the way I love women, I loved working with them, I put up with their sexual innuendos and groping, when I probably could have gone to upper management, quit and then have gotten a lawyer. However I didn't feel demeaned, dehumanized, etc., I guess you could say I took it like a man.
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Old February 14th, 2018, 03:25 PM   #7
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There is two seprate issues being (deliberately) convoluted here.

We have one where men have been using power and authority to assist in feeding their sexual desires

And another one where we are calling normal human behavior as violence and rape.


Now of course there are grey areas w/in both of those seperate issues and it is w/in those grey areas the two can merge at times.


Now here i am going to make statments of course they do not apply to ALL women but they do apply.


Women are attracted to alpha men. Some trates of alpha men are confidence strength. Women are also attracted to money and power. These are natural attractions as our brains are tricking us to find the best match for our genetics to create better humans. Some problems we run into w/ these things is one when some people just become used to getting what they want as no becomes harder and harder for them to "hear" others are when beta males attempt to mimic the natural confidence of alphas. This forced confidence comes across as pushy, deliberate and causes unconscious red flags to come up. Also there are those who strive for "money and power" because they wish to hold power over people, especially women. We see this in cases such as Weinstein. Also prision gards, police. We hear about it in all walks of authority from the shift manager at McDiabetes to CEOs of major corporations. Then we also run into the fact that people have been using sex as a form of currency since the begining of time. So where one person may be willing to trade a blow job for never having to clean a deep fryer ever again most people.will not.


So the real question is what do we want to happen as a society?
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There is two seprate issues being (deliberately) convoluted here.

We have one where men have been using power and authority to assist in feeding their sexual desires

And another one where we are calling normal human behavior as violence and rape.


Now of course there are grey areas w/in both of those seperate issues and it is w/in those grey areas the two can merge at times.


Now here i am going to make statments of course they do not apply to ALL women but they do apply.


Women are attracted to alpha men. Some trates of alpha men are confidence strength. Women are also attracted to money and power. These are natural attractions as our brains are tricking us to find the best match for our genetics to create better humans. Some problems we run into w/ these things is one when some people just become used to getting what they want as no becomes harder and harder for them to "hear" others are when beta males attempt to mimic the natural confidence of alphas. This forced confidence comes across as pushy, deliberate and causes unconscious red flags to come up. Also there are those who strive for "money and power" because they wish to hold power over people, especially women. We see this in cases such as Weinstein. Also prision gards, police. We hear about it in all walks of authority from the shift manager at McDiabetes to CEOs of major corporations. Then we also run into the fact that people have been using sex as a form of currency since the begining of time. So where one person may be willing to trade a blow job for never having to clean a deep fryer ever again most people.will not.


So the real question is what do we want to happen as a society?


Was that in college that you had to clean deep fryers??
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Was that in college that you had to clean deep fryers??
Oh, i choose the blow job. Best move i made as a 14yo.
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Oh, i choose the blow job. Best move i made as a 14yo.


So you were still in grade school??
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