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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:20 PM   #51
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Well, let me see...... maybe because that wasnt the point of the OP?

Why would i?

Why are you still trying to pull the focus off the real issue? The real reason that there are these policies in the first place? What is driving that i wonder?
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Actually, it is the point--the Thread is specifically about Sexual Violence in College. You have yet to admit that, given the numbers you cite (from the same source/studies), young men are being raped/sexually assaulted by young women in very, very high numbers--hardly rare (and this is with the much, much less expansive definition of 'consent' that applies to men). Then, why do you keep insisting it is a uniquely female problem?
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:22 PM   #52
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Why dont you start a new thread on that?

Not the point here at all, sorry.
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You may want to read the OP again--it is your mind that is hijacking the Thread to be exclusively about girls.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:24 PM   #53
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Actually, it is the point--the Thread is specifically about Sexual Violence in College. You have yet to admit that, given the numbers you cite (from the same source/studies), young men are being raped/sexually assaulted by young women in very, very high numbers--hardly rare (and this is with the much, much less expansive definition of 'consent' that applies to men). Then, why do you keep insisting it is a uniquely female problem?
No bullshit. You were complaining in the OP about these policies as they were directed at men for the crimes against women on campus. Then you joined the boys club of downplaying the issue, or outright rejecting it.

No, dont try to move the goalposts. Seriously......

I am only participating BECAUSE this is such a serious problem for college women, not to mention all women all around the world. I will not let you twist this into a poor boys moment. If that is what you want, i am out.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:36 PM   #54
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No bullshit. You were complaining in the OP about these policies as they were directed at men for the crimes against women on campus. Then you joined the boys club of downplaying the issue, or outright rejecting it.

No, dont try to move the goalposts. Seriously......

I am only participating BECAUSE this is such a serious problem for college women, not to mention all women all around the world. I will not let you twist this into a poor boys moment. If that is what you want, i am out.
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I have not changed the goal-posts. You, as of yet, have not answered one of the fundamental questions; Why the double standard?

Also, note, if the statistics for rape/sexual assault against women were numbers as high as 1 in 16, what would you think a bout a guy that says, it is a "poor girls moment"? Perhaps, would you think this guy is lacking empathy (to a breathtaking degree)? Would you think they are conceited? Lacking principle?
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:41 PM   #55
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I have not changed the goal-posts. You, as of yet, have not answered one of the fundamental questions; Why the double standard?

Also, note, if the statistics for rape/sexual assault against women were numbers as high as 1 in 16, what would you think a bout a guy that says, it is a "poor girls moment"? Perhaps, would you think this guy is lacking empathy (to a breathtaking degree)? Would you think they are conceited? Lacking principle?
There isnt a fucking double standard! If anything, you are trying to erase the issue women face by comparing it to something that happens FAR less often. Stop.

As for your second paragraph, omfg let me help you get back to reality......

The numbers for women are NOT 1 in 16. Period. Stop trying to drag reality into make-believe to obscure this issue!
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There isnt a fucking double standard! If anything, you are trying to erase the issue women face by comparing it to something that happens FAR less often. Stop.

As for your second paragraph, omfg let me help you get back to reality......

The numbers for women are NOT 1 in 16. Period. Stop trying to drag reality into make-believe to obscure this issue!
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Obscuring the issue by citing the figures you adopt?

I thought the idea was 'gender equality'--no?
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Obscuring the issue by citing the figures you adopt?

I thought the idea was 'gender equality'--no?
Omfg

You brought in those numbers, i didnt adopt them. I was just playing with your numbers......

You are a math fan right? Ok, then tell me how you think .20 = .0625? Because i am not seeing that in your gender equality comment.......

Again, your numbers. Tell me how that is equal? you always seem to want to rip the human side of this issue out, and replace it with ridiculous or just plain absurd posts about definitions or numbers. There, deal with those numbers and tell me how it is equal.....................
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Old March 9th, 2018, 07:08 PM   #58
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Omfg

You brought in those numbers, i didnt adopt them. I was just playing with your numbers......
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Please consider reading the 2 (brief) articles I cited on page 3, post #26
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University Policy on Sexual Violence: @Lyzza

Standard US University Policy regarding 'sexual violence' of present typically is as follows:

(A) If a female is intoxicated and sexual activity occurs--proper consent was necessarily not given.

(B ) Proper consent is necessary for sexual activity, failure to meet such a standard would qualify as either Sexual Assault or Rape (depending upon specifically what occurred)

(C) If both the male and female are intoxicated while sexual activity occurred--only the male is guilty of Sexual Assault or Rape

(D) If the male is intoxicated and the female is sober (i.e. not intoxicated), than no Sexual Violence occurred

(E) 'Intoxication' for females may include level of alcohol intake of 1 beer or above

(F) Accusations of Sexual Violence are not required to be reported to the Police in order for the University to step in. That is, a female may report the incident to the particular department responsible for Sexual Violence at the University exclusively

(E) A University hearing/trial will occur, where typically a committee of Professors will be the 'jury' for the case, and hear both sides of the 'story'. i.e. the male and female will be given the opportunity to present their perspective, while teachers typically asks questions about the students Sexual history, ect. ect. in order to gain further insight into what may have occurred

(F) The committee will make a 'judgement', and, if found guilty, the student would be subject to suspension or dismissal

(E) If found 'not guilty', no punishment is enacted on the accuser


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Do you deem this policy sensible?

This is going to seriously put a damper on the college orgy scene
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This is going to seriously put a damper on the college orgy scene
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Lol. Amazingly, it hasn't.

Apparently, one can only conclude (based upon the definitions used), a huge portion of the College population is eager to perpetually sexually assault each other, week after week, year after year, while they are simultaneously becoming 'debt slaves'--all in order to become 'educated' to start life; which are clearly all indications of personal enlightenment
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