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Old April 30th, 2018, 03:46 AM   #11
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A nation is made up of people, and if you dilute the essence of a people with foreign blood then does not the nation cease to exist?

Could we call Germany, Germany, if there are no actual Germans still living there? Can we call China, China, if all the Chinese are eventually breed out?

I suppose the biggest point of being a race realist for anyone is, why should I become a minority in my own country? By what right do foreigners have to make me a minority in my own country; to replace my culture and way of life with their own?

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citizenship in a nation has nothing to do with your background. Germany is, and always has been, made up of a lot of different people. China too. There are something like 50 different ethnic groups living in China, with like 90 different languages lol.

get over it. no nation is "pure" and wouldnt stay that way anyway.
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Old April 30th, 2018, 04:26 AM   #12
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citizenship in a nation has nothing to do with your background. Germany is, and always has been, made up of a lot of different people. China too. There are something like 50 different ethnic groups living in China, with like 90 different languages lol.

get over it. no nation is "pure" and wouldnt stay that way anyway.
Stop assuming my beliefs or positions.

Of course no nation is pure, but the nation exists to serve the interests of the racial group that created it. Change naturally happens over time, on a very slow scale, but that change is being artificially induced today at an insane pace by creating conflicts to justify moving large populations of different racial groups into mostly European countries. This forced "invasion" creates conflict, increased crime, and will lead to the loss of the host nation if not corrected in time. Nations can only absorb limited numbers of immigrants every generation. No nation can take in the entire third world.

Germany and China may be made up of "technically" different ethnic tribal groups, but those people are all mostly from the same racial group or very similar to them. I.E. there are no African or Arab Chinese ethnic tribal groups that were naturally created.

In America, a nation created from conquest and theft, we have a situation that is new to the world. We have a mixed "White" majority with various accepted minority racial groups that are nowhere racially near the majority group.

America is a nation that is breeding a new human race, literally, but if we don't shut our borders and take the time we need to absorb the immigrants who've already come then the influence of third world barbarism will be too strong and this nation will become a third world country.

Every third world, non-white/asian, country is drowning in crime, poverty, and barbarism. Why would I want my nation to become like a third world country? The third world is in the state it is because of the people who inhabit those countries. We didn't make them that way, they did.

Already crime and poverty are on the rise in America, yet we still think we can take in the world's problems?
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Old April 30th, 2018, 05:40 AM   #13
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A nation is made up of people, and if you dilute the essence of a people with foreign blood then does not the nation cease to exist?

Could we call Germany, Germany, if there are no actual Germans still living there? Can we call China, China, if all the Chinese are eventually breed out?

I suppose the biggest point of being a race realist for anyone is, why should I become a minority in my own country? By what right do foreigners have to make me a minority in my own country; to replace my culture and way of life with their own?

A clear breakdown by Red Ice TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm0NKcBZcY&t=2s
MORE moronic gibberish.
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Old April 30th, 2018, 08:51 AM   #14
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MORE moronic gibberish.
Then where are your arguments?

I suspect that your worldview is based upon your feelings, like a child.

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Then where are your arguments?

I suspect that your worldview is based upon your feelings, like a child.
About feelings and being childish. Your avatar is disturbing and I normally avoid your post to avoid that disturbing image. Suggesting my comment is childish would be a nice compliment considering my age. I am old enough to remember we thought social decency is important and elders should be respected.

This time I chose not to ignore the thread because I feel strongly about the need to stop talking about racism and return to talking about democracy because racism is not compatible with democracy. There I said it, but I will not be subscribing to this thread to see how people react to what I said because I do not want to see that disturbing image again.

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About feelings and being childish. Your avatar is disturbing and I normally avoid your post to avoid that disturbing image. Suggesting my comment is childish would be a nice compliment considering my age. I am old enough to remember we thought social decency is important and elders should be respected.

This time I chose not to ignore the thread because I feel strongly about the need to stop talking about racism and return to talking about democracy because racism is not compatible with democracy. There I said it, but I will not be subscribing to this thread to see how people react to what I said because I do not want to see that disturbing image again.
Times are changing. You deserve no respect because you have earned none by championing our own destruction.
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Old April 30th, 2018, 10:04 AM   #17
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Stop assuming my beliefs or positions.

Of course no nation is pure, but the nation exists to serve the interests of the racial group that created it. Change naturally happens over time, on a very slow scale, but that change is being artificially induced today at an insane pace by creating conflicts to justify moving large populations of different racial groups into mostly European countries. This forced "invasion" creates conflict, increased crime, and will lead to the loss of the host nation if not corrected in time. Nations can only absorb limited numbers of immigrants every generation. No nation can take in the entire third world.

Germany and China may be made up of "technically" different ethnic tribal groups, but those people are all mostly from the same racial group or very similar to them. I.E. there are no African or Arab Chinese ethnic tribal groups that were naturally created.

In America, a nation created from conquest and theft, we have a situation that is new to the world. We have a mixed "White" majority with various accepted minority racial groups that are nowhere racially near the majority group.

America is a nation that is breeding a new human race, literally, but if we don't shut our borders and take the time we need to absorb the immigrants who've already come then the influence of third world barbarism will be too strong and this nation will become a third world country.

Every third world, non-white/asian, country is drowning in crime, poverty, and barbarism. Why would I want my nation to become like a third world country? The third world is in the state it is because of the people who inhabit those countries. We didn't make them that way, they did.

Already crime and poverty are on the rise in America, yet we still think we can take in the world's problems?
i dont really care about your beliefs, its the insane position you are taking on people that is the problem. Your whole post is full of opinions, and not very educated ones either.

if that is the position you wanna take, and those are your beliefs then whatever.......................
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A nation is made up of people, and if you dilute the essence of a people with foreign blood then does not the nation cease to exist?
The language of race purist rhetoric betrays the fact that it was the blood pumping through our veins that was believed to contain our soul or essence.

The Old Testament references to soul are interwoven with blood..one and the same. So, all that has happened in the last two centuries is that-once it was discovered that blood is not unique, but can be transfused between people of different races as long as they share the same blood types: same antigens or their absence.
But, as we're all well aware, when blood disappeared as more than a metaphorical method of comparison, along came genetics to save the day for the race purists and race supremacists!
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Could we call Germany, Germany, if there are no actual Germans still living there? Can we call China, China, if all the Chinese are eventually breed out?
And, what exactly is a German? Are Germans the same people today as those savage white-skinned warriors who fought against the Roman Empire for centuries about 2000 years ago?

Same question about Chinese; are Chinese members of one race or several races, or does 'race' even mean anything at all that can be narrowly defined?
Here's what real scientists have to say about these issues by way of a survey of members of the American Anthropological Association
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Racial...ren.27t_useful:

There are discrete biological boundaries among races. 89% agree.

Boundaries between what have been called races are completely arbitrary, depending primarily upon the wishes of the classifier. agree (69%)

Race — as defined by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (i.e., census categories) — is a useful proxy for ancestry. disagree (73%)
this is an important one! Because the use of race as a category in collecting census data is one of the factors that keeps race talk alive and so convoluted and confusing for a lot of people!


Genetic ancestry — inferred from genetic markers — rather than race, is a better proxy for genetic relationships among sub-Saharan Africans, Asians, Europeans, Pacific Islanders, and Native Americans. agree (75%)

The distributions of physical traits overlap among races. agree (89%)
another important point! Because many years ago, our geography books classified the indigenous Ainu of the Japanese Islands as 'Caucasian,' solely because of similar morphological characteristics-i.e. lack of eyefolds. Later genetic testing reveals they fit right in with other Central and Eastern Asian populations...who btw, are similar to what gets called "white" races because 'caucasians' split from this group and moved west only a few thousand years ago. The original populations of Europe when the last ice age was ending were African!
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I suppose the biggest point of being a race realist for anyone is, why should I become a minority in my own country? By what right do foreigners have to make me a minority in my own country; to replace my culture and way of life with their own?
Here's why I consider this myth of "race realism" to be so dangerous! Take a look at what's happened to Europe over the past half century! Liberal European leaders have always been on the horns of a dilemma trying to resolve their national identities with their declared values of the enlightenment, and the mix generally requires a healthy dose of hypocrisy! What some Euro leaders have unleashed since the WarOnTerror-induced mass migrations out of Africa and Asia...especially Merkel in Germany, is taking in large numbers of foreign refugees from these conflicts(which Euro nations have played a hand in) without resolving whether or not the foreigners will truly be acceptable as 'Germans,'French', 'Dutch,' Belgians,' 'English,' never mind the ridiculously ramped up fascistic nationalism that have overtaken Eastern Europe as the reason d'etre since the fall of the Iron Curtain! So, should it surprise anyone that Hungary, Poland, let alone impoverished basket case-Ukraine are so hostile to foreigners?

But, that's not the worst aspect of the return to nationalistic fascism in Europe. As rightwing fascist parties grow and take greater control of Poland and Ukraine, we discover that, surprise surprise-Polish Nazi sympathizers and Ukrainian Nazi Sympathizers see each others as enemies!

There has been a storm of controversy recently regarding the Polish Government's declaration that Poles of the WWII era were victims and not perpetrators of slaughter of Jews in their territory...same thing is happening with the Stepan Bandera worshippers in western Ukraine, but that is getting little international attention.

More recently, the Polish Government has been closing borders with Ukraine..complaining of smuggling, drugs and refugees travelling through. AND, Warsaw is declaring that they will not let Ukraine join the EU as long as Bandera and other WWII era fascists are celebrated and Ukraine refuses to acknowledge the last major war crime of WWII: the killing and forced ethnic cleansing of Polish farmers from Eastern Poland/now Western Ukraine at the end of the war. https://sputniknews.com/europe/20170...e-bandera-row/

At the end of the Soviet era, Gorbachev and other Soviet leaders tried to warn the US that appealing to these nationalisms would be letting Pandora out of the box in the coming years! During the Cold War, national boundaries were essentially meaningless as most of the power was held by the Kremlin in Moscow...so no one cared when Kruschev arbitrarily dealt Crimea away to the Ukraine Republic in 1954 and festering sores like between Poland and Ukraine were suppressed during the Communist Era. But after the fall, there have been a series of wars and proxy wars all across these territories, because race and nationalism do not unite people of different nations and ideologies for a common purpose. They are contrivances by the rich and powerful to win over the support of broad masses of people who have to continue living with less, while the rich get richer! But, that is the essence of fascism and even the less coercive forms of conservative governing and ideology!
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As soon as the chick they put in front of a camera states: "no one is telling the Chinese that they must give up Tibet," I'm not watching any more of this white euro colonial bullshit!
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Then where are your arguments?

I suspect that your worldview is based upon your feelings, like a child.
Arguments for or against what specifically?
You guys are idiots, a country is not a race.
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Don't invoke martyrs of the civil rights and antipoverty movements of the past to rebrand as rightwing capitalist heroes.
Who are you to tell me what to do? Are you a mod, admin, or owner of this website/forum?

No one on this thread brought up anything about capitalism, up until & except when you did, here.
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