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Old April 30th, 2018, 06:03 PM   #21
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A nation is made up of people, and if you dilute the essence of a people with foreign blood then does not the nation cease to exist?
For the sake of argument, let's suppose the answer is yes - then so what?

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Could we call Germany, Germany, if there are no actual Germans still living there? Can we call China, China, if all the Chinese are eventually breed out?
This is ambiguous; it could refer to same/similar, or different things, such as a state, a country, a nation, a group of people by common ancestry (e.g., Semitic - descendants of the Abrahamic religion Shem, one of Noah's sons), a group of people by citizenship, a group of people born within certain geographic boundaries, etc. Time also makes a difference; for instance, the Germany and China of today are different from the Germany and China of 10 years ago, 25 years ago, 75 years ago, etc.

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I suppose the biggest point of being a race realist for anyone is, why should I become a minority in my own country? By what right do foreigners have to make me a minority in my own country; to replace my culture and way of life with their own?
Is there someone going into anyone's home and forcing a foreigner culture on them? Are there people being forced to associate with other people who they don't want to associate with? I'm for the right to associate or not associate with whoever you want to associate with. There are private, members only clubs with whatever criteria those members want for others to be admitted to their clubs, whether it's for sports, hunting, LARPing, book clubs, left handed people, MENSA, religious groups, political parties, or groups like the KKK. No one (the state/government, to be specific) is forcing the KKK to admit blacks, Jews, Catholics, or whoever's a target of their hate, just like the state/government isn't forcing a hunting club to admit soccer teams or tennis players, or MENSA to admit individuals with IQs below 100.

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A clear breakdown by Red Ice TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPm0NKcBZcY&t=2s
I'm not going to watch or even click on that link; I'm familiar enough with them that I had to spit the disgusting taste left in my mouth from what I saw, and I don't want to have to repeat having to spit out that disgusting taste again. If there's anyone who has morbid curiosity & wants to subject themselves to their stench, I suggest clothespin on your nose before you click on that link (wear some gloves, too). They're in the same basket of deplorables that hate/supremacist entities such as NAZIS & the KKK are in.

What is it that you ultimately want, for the state to send men with guns to forcibly segregate (or forcibly integrate) people based on how you desire to label or categorize individuals?
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For the sake of argument, let's suppose the answer is yes - then so what?


This is ambiguous; it could refer to same/similar, or different things, such as a state, a country, a nation, a group of people by common ancestry (e.g., Semitic - descendants of the Abrahamic religion Shem, one of Noah's sons), a group of people by citizenship, a group of people born within certain geographic boundaries, etc. Time also makes a difference; for instance, the Germany and China of today are different from the Germany and China of 10 years ago, 25 years ago, 75 years ago, etc.


Is there someone going into anyone's home and forcing a foreigner culture on them? Are there people being forced to associate with other people who they don't want to associate with? I'm for the right to associate or not associate with whoever you want to associate with. There are private, members only clubs with whatever criteria those members want for others to be admitted to their clubs, whether it's for sports, hunting, LARPing, book clubs, left handed people, MENSA, religious groups, political parties, or groups like the KKK. No one (the state/government, to be specific) is forcing the KKK to admit blacks, Jews, Catholics, or whoever's a target of their hate, just like the state/government isn't forcing a hunting club to admit soccer teams or tennis players, or MENSA to admit individuals with IQs below 100.


I'm not going to watch or even click on that link; I'm familiar enough with them that I had to spit the disgusting taste left in my mouth from what I saw, and I don't want to have to repeat having to spit out that disgusting taste again. If there's anyone who has morbid curiosity & wants to subject themselves to their stench, I suggest clothespin on your nose before you click on that link (wear some gloves, too). They're in the same basket of deplorables that hate/supremacist entities such as NAZIS & the KKK are in.

What is it that you ultimately want, for the state to send men with guns to forcibly segregate (or forcibly integrate) people based on how you desire to label or categorize individuals?
If you love your country, have hope for the future of your descendants, then why would you want your country to become a thirdworld shythole like the rest of the third world?

Actually, I'm not being ambiguous. It's an easy question to answer.

Yes, a foreign culture is being forced upon me! Our leaders allow them to stream through our borders every day without any real attempt at stopping the inflow. Now we have bilingual support, bilingual signage, and other bilingual messaging becoming normal in my country to accommodate foreigners! I am forced to allow them to celebrate their holidays in my homeland while they mock our own holidays! I have to endure them taking jobs from my fellow Americans! They are allowed to form gangs and commit crime all over the nation! Yes, a foreign culture is literally being forced upon the nation!

Why are you afraid to watch a video from Red Ice TV? They lay out very reasoned arguments? Also, if you don't wish to understand what the "other side" believes then how can you make any claims as to their "Deplorability."

As to "what I want" I want the borders closed, illegals deported, visa issuances cut in half, and legal immigration cut to a trickle. Why would I want police to forcibly segregate people when people who want to segregate themselves will do so naturally once the liberals get out of everyone's business.
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Then where are your arguments?

I suspect that your worldview is based upon your feelings, like a child.
Hey bright boy, hatred is a feeling/emotion.
Most of your posts are based on irrational FEAR, a feeling/emotion.
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If you can go back in the history of this site and find a time where that one had a logical on topic debate and/or argument that lasted more than just a few posts please link it to me. I am certain that it does not exist.
KMA Sab, you know as well as I do that I've had many posts composed of just challenging you to answer a direct question or remind you of what a wuss you are for failing to respond to a question honestly due to you knowing that if you did actually answer honestly it would reveal you to be a liar, a jackass, a fool or all three.
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Old May 1st, 2018, 05:26 AM   #26
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Hey bright boy, hatred is a feeling/emotion.
Most of your posts are based on irrational FEAR, a feeling/emotion.
I don't hate anyone.

If you liberals could stop being dishonest liars, that would great.

Just because I don't want to let in all the third world trash doesn't mean I hate them. I just love myself and my own nation more.
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I don't hate anyone.

If you liberals could stop being dishonest liars, that would great.

Just because I don't want to let in all the third world trash doesn't mean I hate them. I just love myself and my own nation more.
Bullshit. All haters are fear based, you don't hate what you do not fear.

You people do not seem to understand the concept of degrees. There is really no such thing as "a liberal" or "a conservative."
A maybe be more liberal that B but B is less liberal than C. Does that make B "a conservative" according to the view of C?

Too many Americans today are too lazy and too stupid. MUCH easier to label people as only "a conservative" or "a liberal." And then blame all the world's ills on "the other guy" leaving your self blameless of course. Avoids all that tresome thinking and the use of reasoning and logic.
It's fucking stupid.
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Who are you to tell me what to do? Are you a mod, admin, or owner of this website/forum?

No one on this thread brought up anything about capitalism, up until & except when you did, here.
Because I already pointed out in post #4 that fighting racism with an 'anti' movement is fighting a battle on their terms, providing them a degree of legitimacy IF the ant-racist side doesn't also address class disparities that cut across all races and cultures in western societies..including the USA.

You don't have to mention the word "capitalism", but you would like the unwitting reader of your posts to think that Martin Luther King was a libertarian...by displaying a large MLK portrait at the bottom of your post. That is as pure cultural misappropriation as anything idiots like Glenn Beck have ever said or done! King was a socialist by action..if he did not work through the political theory of his ideas on how to address poverty still existing in the wealthy America of the early 1960's. King was not a black nationalist nor a race essentialist either! Unlike some modern black celebrity 'experts' who are on speed dial on MSM like Ta Nehisi Coates, King viewed race and the use of "black" and "white" in America as the primary means to maintain an exploited underclass that could be relegated to menial jobs, living conditions, and lessen the demands and expectations of lower class white Americans also! But, he and important allies from the southern church leadership wanted their March on Washington to be about ALL poverty in America/not just their own community!

After two terms of a black Neoliberal president who spent 8 years serving the interests of the banking/finance institutions, the military-industrial complex and other large players in corporate America, it is high time to put an end to race essentialist arguments and expand the debate to address the fact that not all of black America share the same interests and goals (the upper 10% like the system as it stands now, and want to maintain the racial divide in America at all costs...mostly by attacking whites in poverty, while the fascists on the other side work their magic to prevent any coming together between a black and white working class! It's high time non-libertarian Americans give their heads a shake and realize how and why they are being exploited and played as fools by corporate America. Capitalism can work with anti-racism just as well as it works with racism!
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If you love your country, have hope for the future of your descendants, then why would you want your country to become a thirdworld shythole like the rest of the third world?
And who has exploited the billions of dollars in underground wealth and turned to exploiting human capital there as virtual slave/sweatshop labor? Hint: the country you love has been the main offender since the end of WWII.

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Yes, a foreign culture is being forced upon me! Our leaders allow them to stream through our borders every day without any real attempt at stopping the inflow. Now we have bilingual support, bilingual signage, and other bilingual messaging becoming normal in my country to accommodate foreigners! I am forced to allow them to celebrate their holidays in my homeland while they mock our own holidays! I have to endure them taking jobs from my fellow Americans!
I stated previously that capitalism finds ways to profit from all sides when left unencumbered by state regulation. Your little screed here demonstrates how they are profiting from the lack of awareness of economic class dynamics...where every issue is raised and argued and fought along the lines of identity politics. Instead of considering that "them" are being exploited by the same forces that are exploiting you, you would rather attack "them" and guess who profits regardless!
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They are allowed to form gangs and commit crime all over the nation! Yes, a foreign culture is literally being forced upon the nation!
Allowed...really? Recent shocking stats inform us that more black Americans are incarcerated in some form or other than were shackled during the Slavery Era!
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Stop assuming my beliefs or positions.

Of course no nation is pure, but the nation exists to serve the interests of the racial group that created it. Change naturally happens over time, on a very slow scale, but that change is being artificially induced today at an insane pace by creating conflicts to justify moving large populations of different racial groups into mostly European countries. This forced "invasion" creates conflict, increased crime, and will lead to the loss of the host nation if not corrected in time. Nations can only absorb limited numbers of immigrants every generation. No nation can take in the entire third world.

Germany and China may be made up of "technically" different ethnic tribal groups, but those people are all mostly from the same racial group or very similar to them. I.E. there are no African or Arab Chinese ethnic tribal groups that were naturally created.

In America, a nation created from conquest and theft, we have a situation that is new to the world. We have a mixed "White" majority with various accepted minority racial groups that are nowhere racially near the majority group.

America is a nation that is breeding a new human race, literally, but if we don't shut our borders and take the time we need to absorb the immigrants who've already come then the influence of third world barbarism will be too strong and this nation will become a third world country.

Every third world, non-white/asian, country is drowning in crime, poverty, and barbarism. Why would I want my nation to become like a third world country? The third world is in the state it is because of the people who inhabit those countries. We didn't make them that way, they did.

Already crime and poverty are on the rise in America, yet we still think we can take in the world's problems?
Please, provide the data to affirm your allegation.
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