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Old June 7th, 2018, 12:34 PM   #91
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Sometimes what we think we know, prevents us from learning. You hit the argument problem on the head. Religion tends to make men think they understand life and "the rules" for life. That is not the same as understanding relationships through experience and sensitivity. Then because they think they know how things "should be", they force this on others and problems erupt.

One of you forum members knows the best response is a beautiful bouquet of flowers. Maybe there is a verse in the bible for that, but I think not. Besides Christianity justifies everything, from being overly stern to being overly dependent and submissive. I am concerned humanity has not done well because we have relied too much on what a holy book says and not enough on our sensitivity and ability to respond to emotions with emotional intelligence, flowers, hugs, acknowledgment. I think male domination and the silence of women has been a stumbling block in doing better.

I know white men made black men feel inferior and intimidated by calling them "boy". I would frown upon a woman who was so insensitive and dominating.
Religion if faith, it is faith in what is right and wrong, proper and improper faith is a line in stone,

your faith and my faith may be exactly the same, similar, or polar opposites.

I don't bash other peoples faith, now I will discuss/debate/express where someone's faith and my faith differ or have common ground.

If you faith opposes the eating of meat (trying to pick something that will not create a flurry of assholes getting the way of our discussion),

I believe that eating of meat or all forms of meat is acceptable and is acceptable where as a 7th day Adventist differs.

my first response is that God created mankind with canine teeth which is for the ripping and tearing of meat.. he also gave us molars for the crushing and breaking down vegetation.... so eating of meat would not violate God's purpose for man, not be a sin,

the 7th day adventest may have a different view..
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Martin Luther King Jr. fought for more than civil rights. This was the protest less remembered
Martin Luther King Jr. fought for more than civil rights. This was the protest less remembered
You need deprogramming. Nothing wrong with my education and you know it. I'm not the topic, fruit loop.
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You need deprogramming. Nothing wrong with my education and you know it. I'm not the topic, fruit loop.
you've made four posts, and you're already calling people names?

don't expect to make it for long here, do you?
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you've made four posts, and you're already calling people names?

don't expect to make it for long here, do you?
Given the tone of his posts him listing his location was redundant.
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You need deprogramming. Nothing wrong with my education and you know it. I'm not the topic, fruit loop.
MLK had no idea what a fruit loop is having been raised in the Big City.

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old saying: "I am going to beat you like a redheaded step child" (Sayings and stereotypes have some basis in Reality,

Red hair is a an implication of to the Scotts and Irish people, this is an assumption not based in fact, but still you see red hair most think Scott or Irish decent.





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I never heard that saying. Today red hair is a favorite hair dye.

I am glad you posted of the prejudice against the Irish. I think we need to be mindful that such prejudice is not directed only to dark-skinned people. Native Americans faced terrible prejudice and so did Catholics and Jews. It seems to be in our primitive nature to gang up on "those people".
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don't expect to make it for long here, do you?
I think he announced his intentions when he chose his username. I am very glad it is clear such immature and disrespectful behavior is not welcome here.
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Religion if faith, it is faith in what is right and wrong, proper and improper faith is a line in stone,

your faith and my faith may be exactly the same, similar, or polar opposites.

I don't bash other peoples faith, now I will discuss/debate/express where someone's faith and my faith differ or have common ground.

If you faith opposes the eating of meat (trying to pick something that will not create a flurry of assholes getting the way of our discussion),

I believe that eating of meat or all forms of meat is acceptable and is acceptable where as a 7th day Adventist differs.

my first response is that God created mankind with canine teeth which is for the ripping and tearing of meat.. he also gave us molars for the crushing and breaking down vegetation.... so eating of meat would not violate God's purpose for man, not be a sin,

the 7th day adventest may have a different view..
Okay, but how did God make us, through evolution or from mud? To me, this is a very important point. I do not believe it is possible to have sane laws and a functioning democracy without basing our beliefs on science.

I have so many problems with religions because they are divisive. And religions creates a problem with understanding equality and justice. Especially the religions coming from the Hebrews are problematic. These people fought a war with the Greeks who would not respect their favoritism based on heritage, but the Greeks insisted on appointing people to office based on their merit instead of who their father was.

A social order based on heritage is not compatible with democracy, and Christians still live with this old thinking. It is in this thread. It is a failure to get people born with advantages are more likely to succeed than those who were not born with advantages. It is a failure to understand social justice means leveling the playing field and helping people requires more than prayers, and punishing people in inhumane prisons is not how to correct people. It is also an education problem because it stands in the way of education for good moral judgment and this leads to serious social problems.

Many civilizations, even very primitive ones, concluded they were superior to all others. Here is a primitive example
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The Yupik are a group of indigenous or aboriginal peoples of western, southwestern, and ... Thus, it means literally "real people." The ethnographic literature sometimes refers to the Yup'ik .... See also[edit]. List of Alaska Native Tribal Entities ...
The Aztecs would be another primitive example.

The Hebrew, Jewish, Christian, Muslim are other examples from the past, and it is without question time to give up the idea that a god has favorite people. Giving up that idea is pretty important to democracy and world peace. The false belief leads to many wrongs, so I must speak against it. The advancement of humanity was not dependent on Christianity which prevented human advancement for hundreds of years after almost completely destroying the advances made by ancient civilizations. Our shift to science and improving the human conditions was really dependent on rediscovering Athens secular understanding of reality. Athens was the mother of western civilization and father of science and parent of democracy. The religions are not exactly compatible with democracy.
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