Political Forums  

Go Back   Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Forum > Political Ideologies > Socialism

Socialism Socialism Forum - Political Philosophy Forum


Thanks Tree2Thanks
  • 1 Post By Sabcat
  • 1 Post By Southern Dad
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old January 23rd, 2017, 08:39 PM   #1
Celebrating diversity
 
Sabcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 20,149
Should gastric bypass surgery be a requirement for overweight people

Since we may be doomed to have socialized medicine should gastric bypass surgery be a prerequisite for obese people.


Quote:
In addition to its serious health consequences, obesity has real economic costs that affect all of us. The estimated annual health care costs of obesity-related illness are a staggering $190.2 billion or nearly 21% of annual medical spending in the United States.1 Childhood obesity alone is responsible for $14 billion in direct medical costs. Obesity-related medical costs in general are expected to rise significantly, especially because today’s obese children are likely to become tomorrow’s obese adults.2,3 If obesity rates were to remain at 2010 levels, the projected savings for medical expenditures would be $549.5 billion over the next two decades.4
Economic Costs of Obesity | Healthy Communities for a Healthy Future


Now w/ the surgery costing around $20k it sounds like we could both save money and lives if we just required gastric bypass surgery for all obese people if they want socialized medicine.
Thanks from imaginethat
Sabcat is offline  
Old January 23rd, 2017, 10:21 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
imaginethat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Western Slope, Colorado
Posts: 53,311
Yep. Think about angry people and the money that could be saved by requiring angry people to participate successfully in effective anger management classes. Huge savings realized through fewer heart attacks, less need for cardiac surgery, fewer ulcers, better all-around digestive health, and less interaction with law enforcement and the justice system.

Hey, if you're paying for the other guy's or even your own healthcare, you ought to be getting the biggest bang for your buck, right?
imaginethat is offline  
Old January 23rd, 2017, 10:56 PM   #3
Celebrating diversity
 
Sabcat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 20,149
Quote:
Originally Posted by imaginethat View Post
Yep. Think about angry people and the money that could be saved by requiring angry people to participate successfully in effective anger management classes. Huge savings realized through fewer heart attacks, less need for cardiac surgery, fewer ulcers, better all-around digestive health, and less interaction with law enforcement and the justice system.

Hey, if you're paying for the other guy's or even your own healthcare, you ought to be getting the biggest bang for your buck, right?
If there was actual evidence that any of that mumbo-jumbo worked I could be convinced of that but I don't believe that it has a very good success rate. Along w/ anti depressants.

Now manditory, reversible sterilization. There is an idea that would have exponential rewards for our new socialist utopia.

But I think gastric bypass would be a fantastic start. It would be good for everyone.
Sabcat is offline  
Old January 24th, 2017, 01:19 AM   #4
Fm Presidential Candidate
 
Southern Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Monroe, GA
Posts: 534
In this thread the OP clearly shows a complete ignorance of the subject of gastric bypass surgery. You should be embarrassed to have even posted such utter drivel.

This isn't just some simple procedure where you go in for a quick little modification. Gastric bypass surgery isn't going to make people lose weight. Yes, I know you think that I have no idea what I'm talking about but you are wrong. Investigate it. Talk to someone that has had it. Gastric bypass requires a complete and lifelong change in the way that a person eats, drinks, and exercises.

Many people fail to lose weight after gastric bypass surgery. Seems impossible? That's right, if someone continues to eat bread, pasta, and other foods they will stretch their stomach and be right back where they were before. Not to mention the other medical problems caused by gastric bypass surgery. Everything from huge amounts of flappy skin to leakage.

If you really want to work on obesity, reform what foods SNAP can purchase. Make being fat an embarrassing stigma again. Go back to educating people on the problems of bad diets and lack of exercise. And for that matter, put gym and recess back into our schools.
Thanks from imaginethat
Southern Dad is offline  
Old January 24th, 2017, 03:27 AM   #5
Senior Member
 
Clara007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 5,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabcat View Post
Since we may be doomed to have socialized medicine should gastric bypass surgery be a prerequisite for obese people.




Economic Costs of Obesity | Healthy Communities for a Healthy Future


Now w/ the surgery costing around $20k it sounds like we could both save money and lives if we just required gastric bypass surgery for all obese people if they want socialized medicine.


You mean people like Chris Christie??? He had bypass surgery. He's just as chubby as ever.
Clara007 is offline  
Old January 24th, 2017, 03:44 AM   #6
Fm Presidential Candidate
 
Southern Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Monroe, GA
Posts: 534
Actually Governor Chris Christie had lap band surgery. From pictures, it appears that he's lost about a hundred pounds.

How Much Does Gov. Chris Christie Weigh? Did He Lose Weight To Run For President In 2016?
Southern Dad is offline  
Old January 24th, 2017, 03:56 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
Clara007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona
Posts: 5,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
Actually Governor Chris Christie had lap band surgery. From pictures, it appears that he's lost about a hundred pounds.

How Much Does Gov. Chris Christie Weigh? Did He Lose Weight To Run For President In 2016?

Quote from the article: A doctor in November estimated that Christie may have lost up to 100 pounds since the Lap-Band surgery. The New Jersey governor has kept his poundage under wraps, though, so exactly how much he has lost is unknown.
Clara007 is offline  
Old January 24th, 2017, 04:37 AM   #8
Fm Presidential Candidate
 
Southern Dad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Monroe, GA
Posts: 534
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clara007 View Post
Quote from the article: A doctor in November estimated that Christie may have lost up to 100 pounds since the Lap-Band surgery. The New Jersey governor has kept his poundage under wraps, though, so exactly how much he has lost is unknown.
Hence the reason that I used the word appears to have lost. You seemed to miss that. I did not say that he certainly had lost a certain amount. However, your claim earlier says that he hasn't lost anything. I can understand why you dislike him, after all he's a successful conservative politician, and you are... Well, let's just say that I understand your frustration. But he has certainly lost some weight since having his lap band surgery.
Southern Dad is offline  
Reply

  Defending The Truth Political Forum > Political Forum > Political Ideologies > Socialism

Tags
bypass, gastric, overweight, people, requirement, surgery



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
No Immunization Requirement for Refugees excalibur Current Events 9 June 6th, 2016 10:12 AM
Not one of them is overweight.... imaginethat Healthcare 66 August 30th, 2012 06:04 AM
Wis. Senate GOP Finds Way To Bypass Democrats npr Current Events 2 March 10th, 2011 10:43 AM


Facebook Twitter RSS Feed



Copyright © 2005-2013 Defending The Truth. All rights reserved.