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Old July 6th, 2018, 05:18 AM   #1
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Do not be fooled by a Harvard lawyer when he mixes freedom of speech and insisting everyone listen:

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Allen Dershowitz advocates the same garbage liberals have been preaching for a century. You are un-American if you do not listen to everything I say.

I hate to defend the NY Times but they are right. No one is preventing Dershowitz from speaking somewhere else.

Freedom of speech is protected by the First Amendment —— THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BE HEARD. The forces of big government; i.e., liberals always insist that everyone listen to the message. Democrats force Americans to listen wherever possible. Examples: School children, and higher education if you want a degree. The Left’s perversion of freedom of speech requires that everybody listen to the message.

Unlike soapbox orators and coffeehouse pundits where the public can walk on by, or even cross the street, a train station provides a captive audience to some degree.

It was on June 26, 2012, when Karns and Parker began sharing their Christian beliefs with members of the public at the Princeton Junction Station of the NJTC.
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They were charged with trespass and obstruction of justice but eventually cleared of the charges.

They then sued the New Jersey Transit Corp. and the officers over the demand that they “obtain a permit” to talk, non-commercially, with others at the public station.
State demands preachers get permission to speak
Posted By Bob Unruh On 01/19/2018 @ 9:02 pm

State demands preachers get permission to speak
Basically, Karns and Parker turned a train station into a pulpit much like Communists turned the public airwaves into a pulpit to preach their message throughout the Fairness Doctrine’s golden years —— 1949 - 1987.

NOTE: Neither Christians nor Communists have a Right to make anyone listen

Freedom of speech is a contradiction in terms in today’s political climate because it is always about who controls freedom of speech. Proof: The folks in high places who wrap themselves in free speech whenever they need it never say there is NO constitutional Right to be heard. Failure to defend an important element in freedom of speech makes me wonder what this lady thought about it:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Evelyn Beatrice Hall
Try it this way:

I disapprove of your refusal to listen, but I will defend to the death your Right to not listen.
Parenthetically, clerics have been at it for thousands of years. You are a heretic if you refuse to listen. That is why I avoid discussions about the Bible, the Koran, etc. that I never read. I do not want to encourage them. That said, I will take a chance on this one and say that Jerusalem Slim would denounce the Devil’s Right to be heard:
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's."
There is no Right to be read either:

The Knight First Amendment Institute, a digital rights group out of Columbia University, published an open letter to President Trump on Tuesday asking him to unblock his critics on Twitter or potentially face legal action for violating their constitutional rights.

In the four-page letter, the lawyers argue that Twitter “operates as a ‘designated public forum’ for First Amendment purposes, and accordingly the viewpoint-based blocking of our clients is unconstitutional.”
Free Speech Group Says Trump Violates the First Amendment by Blocking Critics on
Sidney Fussell
6/06/17 4:14pm

https://gizmodo.com/free-speech-grou...dme-1795861983
Demanding access to Trump’s twitter account was a repeat of the old Hollywood Communists claiming that their freedom of speech gave them the Right to use property they did not own. Sally Field tried it 2007:

Monday, December 31, 2007
FOX Censors Sally Field's Anti-War Rant

Televisionista: FOX Censors Sally Field's Anti-War Rant
Sally Field tried to take Rupert Murdoch’s property and use it to send her message. That is not freedom of speech. Sally Field had other choices. She could have bought a soapbox, purchased her own media outlet, or even asked Murdoch for permission beforehand. When the story was in the news I remember thinking “I would love to see a pro-Iraq War American go to Sally’s home and preach to a crowd from her front porch without her permission.”

I am not a big fan of Rupert Murdoch, or any press baron for that matter, but if Murdoch loses his property Rights what chance do I have of keeping mine?

Socialism’s message is forced on children in the public schools. Al Gore crossed the line when his environmental crapola was forced on school children. Had he been denied access to a young CAPTIVE audience the Left would still be screaming censorship. Gore proved that liberals are allowed to cross the line separating government coercion and the Right to NOT LISTEN whenever it suits them.

Most people who pay attention to the Left’s attacks on freedom of speech overlook property Rights. In short: Nobody has a Right to commandeer someone else’s microphone to get a message out. Socialists always had trouble getting people to listen. That is why Hollywood and television have to sneak their messages into almost everything they produce.

The Hollywood blacklist flap in the McCarthy Era was about ownership Rights although liberals convinced succeeding generations that the “Witch Hunts” was about the Fifth Amendment. Communist writers and directors demanded their Right to use someone else’s property to send their message.

Finally, Sam Goldwyn was not talking about censorship when he said, "If you want to send a message call Western Union." Goldwyn told Hollywood Communists “Buy your own studio.” Liberals never stop pissing and moaning about it.
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Old July 6th, 2018, 05:39 AM   #2
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There should be an established right to peace and quiet in public places. I'm for establishing "free speech areas" where anyone can say anything they wish. Those who want to listen can gather there to listen if they wish. Being assailed with any message that anyone wants to assail me with should be a violation of my rights to peace and quiet. Many years ago I was standing in line at a local church waiting to vote. As the line moved (snails pace) a person would emerge from a door and deliver a short sermon. I was quite incensed! It did not deter me fro voting tho. Needless to say that was not a polling place in the next election!!
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