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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:32 PM   #1
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The rich versus the rest of us

Apparently, you and I owe an apology to the extravagantly-rich in our society. They're reported to be in a deep pout and a political funk because We the People have hurt their feelings.

This stems from the public's simmering anger over the fact that the Wall Street barons who crashed our economy are back to paying themselves multimillion-dollar bonuses, while the corporate CEOs who keep downsizing and offshoring our middle class opportunities are grabbing bigger paychecks than ever for themselves. The wealthy swells are upset by our anger and feel picked on by us riff-raff they don't like being blamed for our economic distress, even though they are to blame, and they certainly don't like the rising populist fervor for more economic fairness in our country. So they're mad at us for being mad at them, claiming that they are victims of our "wealth envy."

I'm sure you feel as badly as I do about this, so you'll be glad to know that those living in luxury seem to have found a way to soothe their bad mood: they've gone shopping! Yes, while workaday Americans are scrambling just to cover the rent and buy groceries, the well-heeled are reported to be splurging again, indulging their consumer whims with such pricey pretties as exotic automobiles.

One analyst of trends in the luxury car market concedes that sales of Bentleys, Lamborghinis, Maseratis, and other ultra-priced autos had been down the past couple of years. He explained that, "It didn't feel right buying a $300,000 Rolls-Royce when people were being foreclosed out of their homes." But this year, the elites are saying, "To hell with what the public thinks, I'm gonna get me a new Ferrari 458 Italia, the people be damned!"

How nice for them. But I don't think their conspicuous consumption is going to make anyone feel better about their greed nor will it quell the public's rising populist fervor.

Jim Hightower | THE RICH VERSUS THE REST OF US





"Wealthy step up purchases of ultra-luxury cars," www.azcentral.com, September 16, 2010.

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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #2
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U.S. September home foreclosures top 100,000 for 1st time - Yahoo! News



Sad, this is.



Just think that if your home was foreclosed and you go by a Mercedes (or Ferrari) dealership and see people buying a Mercedes, does it not tear your heart out that (1) can't afford this and (2) you lost your home?



Try going up to a Mercedes buyer and ask him/her for money to help with your mortgage payment.
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I'm sorry it didn't jerk a tear from my eyes. Why do people envy rich and have so much time on their hands to do so. If you want to be rich then focus on getting rich and stop bitching. Would you like to live in a world designed like a New Jersey subdivision where every fifth house is the same and as you meet your neighbors you don't have to ask where the bathroom is? The liberal mindset is to hate, and I mean hate rich people while many of their hero's are actually rich.



Wall Street bonuses are none of anyones business outside of the owners of the business including the stockholders and the employees working there. Stop whining and get a life...want a job on Wall Street then qualify for it and get yours.



If your house is being foreclosed it should stand as ample reason why the other guy is buying an expensive car and your ass is on the street...you cannot manage your own money so sure as hell you shouldn't be managing money on Wall Street.
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Sad, this is.



Just think that if your home was foreclosed and you go by a Mercedes (or Ferrari) dealership and see people buying a Mercedes, does it not tear your heart out that (1) can't afford this and (2) you lost your home?



Try going up to a Mercedes buyer and ask him/her for money to help with your mortgage payment.


Typical liberal nonsense. "I can't afford my house, ergo the rich should pay for it." What the hell is wrong with you. You think the government should distribute wealth because you feel "heart torn". Too bad pussy.
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Have both emsp and Zack ever asked themselves why the U.S. has the largest gap between the rich and poor than in any developed country? NO. If I would to take all of both emsp and Zacks money, would they be saying to themselves 'I WILL NOT ENVY FAYT FOR BEING SO RICH AFTER TAKING ALL OF MY MONEY'? NO. Would that make them selfish hypocrites YES.
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Going back the OP, I didn't know all of "the rich", became rich working on Wall Street. We've gone from hating "the rich", to stereotyping all "rich" people. Damn.



It's a shame we are having record numbers of foreclosures, but I guess that's to be expected when we just had record numbers of people using their homes as piggy banks and record numbers of sub-prime loans.
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Going back the OP, I didn't know all of "the rich", became rich working on Wall Street. We've gone from hating "the rich", to stereotyping all "rich" people. Damn.



It's a shame we are having record numbers of foreclosures, but I guess that's to be expected when we just had record numbers of people using their homes as piggy banks and record numbers of sub-prime loans.


And record numbers of responsible people who could comfortably afford their homes until they lost their jobs and couldn't find new ones.
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And record numbers of responsible people who could comfortably afford their homes until they lost their jobs and couldn't find new ones.
That's not necessarily the fault of "the rich" either.
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Have both emsp and Zack ever asked themselves why the U.S. has the largest gap between the rich and poor than in any developed country? NO. If I would to take all of both emsp and Zacks money, would they be saying to themselves 'I WILL NOT ENVY FAYT FOR BEING SO RICH AFTER TAKING ALL OF MY MONEY'? NO. Would that make them selfish hypocrites YES.
Why and how do you think the rich people made the poor people poor?
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Why do people envy rich and have so much time on their hands to do so.
Maybe because the prices of everything IS GOING SKY HIGH! (While quality goes down )
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Maybe because the prices of everything IS GOING SKY HIGH! (While quality goes down )




Hence the term "outsourcing".
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Have both emsp and Zack ever asked themselves why the U.S. has the largest gap between the rich and poor than in any developed country? NO. If I would to take all of both emsp and Zacks money, would they be saying to themselves 'I WILL NOT ENVY FAYT FOR BEING SO RICH AFTER TAKING ALL OF MY MONEY'? NO. Would that make them selfish hypocrites YES.


I would guess that it has something to do with the gap between the well educated and the publicly educated over the past 30 or 40 years. When the public decided to stop shoveling blood money to the teachers unions, they retaliated by ensuring that the last place the public education money was going to visit was the classroom teacher and the students. Of the $10,000 - $15,000 per student per 9-month school year, how much is siphoned off by the bureaucracy and how much goes to the (bureaucratically oppressed) teacher's pay and to the student's supplies? Not much. "Pay up or we kill your children's future" was the threat. They were serious. They still are.



The reason much of the high paying jobs (and the tax revenue generated from those jobs) have gone to China and India is not that those workers are cheaper. It is because they are better educated.



Please note that a majority of teachers make sure their own kids go to private school, not public. Please note that a majority of politicians send their own kids to private school, not public school...including Presidents Clinton and Obama. They know what will ensure that their own kids are on the right side of that "gap between the rich and the poor".



All the unions and taxes in the world will not fix that. Beheading the rich and dragging their carcasses through the streets will not fix that. Grow up.
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Maybe because the prices of everything IS GOING SKY HIGH! (While quality goes down )


Get your cheap plastic communist (China) made crap at mal - wart!







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That's not necessarily the fault of "the rich" either.


So, so much of it is actually the fault of the rich. The ones in public office and in corporate America. From lobbying and special interests getting the legislative benefit, to the deregulation and corruption of Wall St., to the outsourcing of American jobs because of cheaper costs, and not because of better educated populations than ours. It is called GREED! Plain and simple. Deny it all you like, but the evidence is right there in front for all to see.
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I demand that the government buy me a new Bentley in the spirit of "equality" and the 14th ammendment.
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Maybe because the prices of everything IS GOING SKY HIGH! (While quality goes down )
The Obama administration says inflation is non existent, in fact they worry about deflation...it seems this is the time for all poor people to cash in and get rich... the poor with jobs simply go out and buy up all of those cheap houses, so the unemployed poor can get a job at Lowes or one of the big home fix up stores, give those stores your business fixing up the house and everyone is in milk and honey.
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I demand that the government buy me a new Bentley in the spirit of "equality" and the 14th ammendment.


Sit on Santa's lap, PN.



BTW, I saw a sleeky new Rolls Royce yesterday near my place of business. There is a fancy auto repair shop near where I work. I've seen van loads of highly-priced cars like the Lamborghinis, Maseratis, and Ferraris, being unloaded or loaded into them. Wow!!!!
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The Obama administration says inflation is non existent, in fact they worry about deflation...it seems this is the time for all poor people to cash in and get rich... the poor with jobs simply go out and buy up all of those cheap houses, so the unemployed poor can get a job at Lowes or one of the big home fix up stores, give those stores your business fixing up the house and everyone is in milk and honey.


Have you been treated for that diarrhea of the brain yet? Yes, yes, milk and honey, mmmm hmmmmm.....
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Why and how do you think the rich people made the poor people poor?




Well Zack the poor didn't causes the economic situations today, in the 1980s, 1928 and etc. And please don't state that I'm blaming all rich people or that I hate all rich people.That argument won't ever fly with me EVER so please stop or you look more like a fool. It was some rich individuals with great power that causes this ills in our society economic and.......others.



They don't make any secrets about it Zack and scrjnki. I wanted to explain this to scrjnki before he quite our debate about the E.F.C.A. awhile ago. From the 1950s they really started talking about it but it really went on steroids in the 60s because of the whole hippie movement, free-love, mostly the anti war movement, civil rights movement and womens movements, you add all those things up. The traditional conservatives (like the william Buckley, Mark Kirk, Barry Goldwater conservatives) those traditional conservatives looked at American society in the 1960s and 70s and said 'THIS IS A SOCIETY IN CHAOS (and they're still freaked out about it) and the only way that we can dial back the power of young people that says no to going off to war (well we can blame it on LBJ but whatever), dial back the power of women in the work place, dial back the power of minorities and etc. The Only way we can dial back their power is to strip them of their "ECONOMIC POWER" and so there was a plain put in to place (And they were right up front about this too, this was in the Wall Street Journal) 'to remove the economic and thus the political power of the middle class' and that plain involved destroying LABOR UNIONS, (which Ronald Reagan kicked off in his first month in office going after PATCO and continued ever since) which helped keep wages flat for about 30 years so as inflation continued wages didn't and so people went deeper and deeper in debt to the point where they're wiped out. And kids now graduate form school thousands thousands and thousands dollars in debt, they don't feel like their free to go out there and protest like they used to. Also taxes (which you can read more about in my post http://www.defending...side-economics/) , "free trades" and to a small degree cheap labor in the U.S.. It's neo feudalism and anyone under 50 years old don't really know what I'm talking about unless they read history or had someone who knew educate them.





What I stated is true. If you want more info I'll try my hardest to find the original W.S.J.. I'm going off memory here but all of this was all documented, I just put it into words that can be understood. If you don't believe me just look at the republicans today and be truthful to yourself and say are they looking out for me or the wealthy. The question is not that hard to answer.
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