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Old April 11th, 2017, 04:22 AM   #1
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Look who's backing Carbon Tax

What's that in my crystal ball, a carbon tax in your future...


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“If Trump does not go down the path of a carbon tax, we should not lose our resolve. We should stick to our values as Canadians to do something to protect the environment.” — Michael Crothers, Canada, November, 2016

“Climate change is happening. We think a broad-based carbon price is the right answer.” — Steve Williams, Canada, May, 2015

“Carbon pricing systems encourage the quickest and most efficient ways of reducing emissions widely.” — Ben van Beurden, the Netherlands, October, 2015

“A global carbon price would help to unleash market forces and provide the right incentives for everyone to play their part. History has shown the power of market forces in making economies less energy intensive as people have found more efficient ways to use energy.” — Bob Dudley, Britain, February, 2015

“One option being discussed by policy makers is a national revenue-neutral carbon tax. This would promote greater energy efficiency and the use of today’s lower-carbon options, avoid further burdening the economy, and also provide incentives for markets to develop additional low-carbon energy solutions for the future.” — Darren Woods, United States, February 2017

Those people aren't with Greenpeace, they are all oil company CEOs, Darren Woods is the guy who replaced Rex Tillerson, who is also in favor of a carbon tax.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/o...ft-region&_r=0
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Old April 11th, 2017, 10:24 AM   #2
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Michael Crothers is President of Shell Canada. Steve Williams is CEO of Suncor, one of the largest if not the largest tar sands producer in Canada, along with extensive conventional oil and gas production and Bob Dudley is President of Shell Oil Global. For sure these guys are not Greenpeace, and they are heavy hitters in their industry.
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What's that in my crystal ball, a carbon tax in your future...





Those people aren't with Greenpeace, they are all oil company CEOs, Darren Woods is the guy who replaced Rex Tillerson, who is also in favor of a carbon tax.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/o...ft-region&_r=0
Carbon dioxide is clean air. Oil companies could care less whether people pay an additional tax on anything. they will not be paying it. Only a foolish person would want to give the "world government" a tax on the emission of clean air (carbon dioxide).
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What good is a carbon tax?

Just sounds like wealth redistribution all dressed up in a socially conscious suit in attempt to fool the sheeple.
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Old April 11th, 2017, 05:34 PM   #5
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What good is a carbon tax?

Just sounds like wealth redistribution all dressed up in a socially conscious suit in attempt to fool the sheeple.
It does not just sound like it, it is.
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What good is a carbon tax?

Just sounds like wealth redistribution all dressed up in a socially conscious suit in attempt to fool the sheeple.
ask this guy

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I asked you, you posted it.

Or can't you defend your own position?
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Old April 11th, 2017, 08:21 PM   #8
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So lets explore what would happen with a "carbon dioxide (fresh air emission) tax".

Plant "A" that produces electricity by burning natural gas gets a penalty tax for producing carbon dioxide (fresh air). They pay this 10 million dollar tax and they pay it by raising the price of electricity.

Then you Joe blow liberal, pay the increased cost \, basically paying the tax. Businesses in the area also pay more for electricity. These businesses also pass along their increased costs. Everybody loses except the government. So what does the government do with this new revenue stream? Do they provide more electric car tax offsets? Do they provide more solar panel tax offsets? Do they spend the money efficiently? Do they send much of this money out of the country to help out all of the les fortunate countries belching out actual pollution? lets look at Germany the big leader in solar power.
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Green Energy Bust in Germany


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Through much of 2012, the Energiewende, Germany’s pioneering effort to construct an energy system around renewables while simultaneously phasing out nuclear power and cutting carbon emissions, was on a roll.
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But statistics on Germany’s electricity sector for the whole of 2012 are now in, and when you look beyond the cherry-picked hype, the results are dismal and disquieting. Despite massive construction of new capacity, electricity output from renewables, especially from wind and solar, grew at a sluggish rate. Germany is indeed avoiding blackouts—by opening new coal- and gas-fired plants. Renewable electricity is proving so unreliable and chaotic that it is starting to undermine the stability of the European grid and provoke international incidents. The spiraling cost of the renewables surge has sparked a backlash, including government proposals to slash subsidies and deployment rates. Worst of all, the Energiewende made no progress at all in clearing the German grid of fossil fuels or abating greenhouse emissions—nor is it likely to for at least a decade longer.
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Merkel’s energy plan called for the addition of 25,000 megawatts of sea-based wind turbine power by 2030. However through the first six months of 2012 only 45 megawatts had been added to Germany’s existing 200-megawatt supply, according to an industry analyst quoted by Reuters. And despite massive subsidies funded by a household energy surcharge (which currently comprises 14 percent of German power bills), major wind projects in the North Sea are being delayed or canceled due to skittish investors.

A 14% surcharge on electricity that Germans paid. It was crushing the German people.


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