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Old August 30th, 2008, 12:40 PM   #1
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Obama's budget and taxes???

When will Obama give the American people some clue of his spending (Free education and free healthcare) and his tax increases?



What is Obama hiding from the poor and middle-class?
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Old August 30th, 2008, 01:10 PM   #2
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When will Obama give the American people some clue of his spending (Free education and free healthcare) and his tax increases?



What is Obama hiding from the poor and middle-class?




It has already been posted for you by me.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #3
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It has already been posted for you by me.
Exactly, how much will free healthcare and free education cost the American taxpayers?



Could you provide these costs and the increase in income taxes?



I don't expect you to do so. lol
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Now, we wouldn't want thems lower classes getting uppity and thinking they have special privileges, like being healthy and getting an education.



Well, first, just look how much money we would save by ending the war in Iraq.



Why is it people like you don't want to raise taxes to fund things that help us as a country?
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 08:06 AM   #5
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Exactly, how much will free healthcare and free education cost the American taxpayers?



Could you provide these costs and the increase in income taxes?



I don't expect you to do so. lol




You are none to bright. As far as health care we already the most expensive in the western world with one of the lowest one of the lowest health ratings. We already have "free education" ever hear of a public school?



And i provided you the info on income taxes.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 09:03 AM   #6
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You are none to bright. As far as health care we already the most expensive in the western world with one of the lowest one of the lowest health ratings. We already have "free education" ever hear of a public school?



And i provided you the info on income taxes.
I pay $300 a month in school district taxes and this is what you call "Free"?



The US has the most expensive healthcare because it's the best private care in the world.

Now, you will probably cite the average life-span in the US.

This is a bogus comparison considering the fact that US inner city murder rates are the highest in the world.



Now, do you have anything to offer that is worthwhile?
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I pay $300 a month in school district taxes and this is what you call "Free"?


I guess you didn't notice the quotes.



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The US has the most expensive healthcare because it's the best private care in the world.

Now, you will probably cite the average life-span in the US.

This is a bogus comparison considering the fact that US inner city murder rates are the highest in the world.



Now, do you have anything to offer that is worthwhile?


Despite having the most costly health system in the world, the United States consistently underperforms on most dimensions of performance, relative to other countries. This report—an update to two earlier editions—includes data from surveys of patients, as well as information from primary care physicians about their medical practices and views of their countries' health systems. Compared with five other nations—Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom—the U.S. health care system ranks last or next-to-last on five dimensions of a high performance health system: quality, access, efficiency, equity, and healthy lives. The U.S. is the only country in the study without universal health insurance coverage, partly accounting for its poor performance on access, equity, and health outcomes. The inclusion of physician survey data also shows the U.S. lagging in adoption of information technology and use of nurses to improve care coordination for the chronically ill.



Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: An International Update on the Comparative Performance of American Health Care
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 10:42 AM   #8
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I guess you didn't notice the quotes.







Despite having the most costly health system in the world, the United States consistently underperforms on most dimensions of performance, relative to other countries. This report—an update to two earlier editions—includes data from surveys of patients, as well as information from primary care physicians about their medical practices and views of their countries' health systems. Compared with five other nations—Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, the United Kingdom—the U.S. health care system ranks last or next-to-last on five dimensions of a high performance health system: quality, access, efficiency, equity, and healthy lives. The U.S. is the only country in the study without universal health insurance coverage, partly accounting for its poor performance on access, equity, and health outcomes. The inclusion of physician survey data also shows the U.S. lagging in adoption of information technology and use of nurses to improve care coordination for the chronically ill.



Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: An International Update on the Comparative Performance of American Health Care
includes data from surveys of patients, as well as information from primary care physicians about their medical practices and views of their countries' health systems.



I'm not concerned about opinions from Doctors that are employed by the Govt.

Here is an article about a Liberal Canadian Politician that came to the US for cancer treatment. Notice the citizen's comments below this article on that same web page.

CTV.ca | Stronach went to U.S. for cancer treatment: report



Almost 15,000 French die from heat because Govt. Doctors were on vacation and they were not called

2003 European heat wave - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I'll keep my private healthcare, thank you!
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I pay $300 a month in school district taxes and this is what you call "Free"?



School district taxes? Do you mean property taxes?



This is a local tax not a federal tax. What has this to do with Obama?



The US has the most expensive healthcare because it's the best private care in the world.

Now, you will probably cite the average life-span in the US.

This is a bogus comparison considering the fact that US inner city murder rates are the highest in the world.



The best private care is little consolation for those who can't even afford medication.



Most people have an HMO because it is all they can afford.



We have one of the highest infant mortality rates in America, because we don't care about people in poverty....which is also why we have a high inner city murder rate.



Republicans don't want to pay taxes to support Americans, but they have no problem with corporate cronyism...why is that?



Now, do you have anything to offer that is worthwhile?


I watch him wipe the floor with your ass consistently.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 02:24 PM   #10
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includes data from surveys of patients, as well as information from primary care physicians about their medical practices and views of their countries' health systems.



I'm not concerned about opinions from Doctors that are employed by the Govt.

Here is an article about a Liberal Canadian Politician that came to the US for cancer treatment. Notice the citizen's comments below this article on that same web page.

CTV.ca | Stronach went to U.S. for cancer treatment: report



!


And I can come up with anecdotal stories of Americans going to Canada, Mexico, France, India for health care.
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