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Old March 8th, 2007, 03:28 AM   #1
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Who really were the 9/11 bombers?

Lets look at the actual men behind the attack.



AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11

7:45 a.m.: Departed Boston for Los Angeles.

8:46 a.m.: Crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center.



Mohamed Atta, pilot and group leader

Age: 33.

Nationality: Egyptian.

“A walking dead man.” That is how the head of one Florida flight school described this son of a middle-class lawyer and a doting mother. It was not a reference to Atta’s impending suicide, but to his demeanor. Most Floridians who encountered Atta remember him as always serious and frequently boorish. Thought to be a mastermind of the Sept. 11 plot, he and two other leader/pilots, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah, go back to the late 1990s when they spent time together at Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg in Germany.



Abdulaziz Alomari

Age: Unknown.

Nationality: Saudi.

The last hijacker to arrive in the United States. His grinning face captured at an ATM machine in Portland, Maine, gave rise to an FBI theory that some hijackers did not know the Sept. 11 plot was a suicide mission. Took flying classes in Vero Beach. Trained at a Boynton Beach gym.



Satam M.A. Al Suqami

Age: 25.

Nationality: Saudi.

Tied to a foiled millennium plot to blow up tourist sites. Trained in a Boynton Beach gym.



Wail M. Alshehri

Age: 28.

Nationality: Saudi.

Stayed at motels in Hollywood, Deerfield Beach and Boynton Beach. Brother is Waleed, below.



Waleed M. Alshehri

Age: 22.

Nationality: Saudi.

Generally followed his brother’s movements in Florida. Their father last saw them in December 2000 when Wail Alshehri went away to seek religious help for a psychological problem.









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UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175

7:58 a.m.: Departed Boston for Los Angeles

9:02 a.m.: Crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center



Marwan al-Shehhi, pilot and group leader

Age: 23.

Nationality: United Arab Emirates.

Al-Shehhi was a friendly foil to his frequent companion, the brooding Atta, as they earned their commercial pilots licenses together in Venice, then trained on a simulator in Opa-Locka near Miami. He and Atta arrived in the United States in the summer of 2000. This time last year, al-Shehhi, Atta and several other Sept. 11 terrorists were living at a Deerfield Beach motel, where the owner noticed they dressed nicely, never went to the beach a block away, never swam in the kidney-shaped pool and always carried black duffel bags.



Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad

Age: 28.

Nationality: Saudi.

He left home in July 2000, telling his family he was joining the International Islamic Relief Organization. He turned up later in Delray Beach. A year ago this past Tuesday, he purchased his first-class ticket on Flight 175.



Ahmed Alghamdi

Age: 21.

Nationality: Saudi.

One of two Sept. 11 terrorists with ties to a foiled millennium plot to attack tourist destinations. Lived in Delray, but moved to Virginia by this time last year to get in place for the attack.



Hamza Alghamdi

Age: 20.

Nationality: Saudi.

Lived in Delray Beach with two hijackers from Flight 93, the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania.



Mohand Alshehri

Age: 21.

Nationality: Unknown.

Not related to the Alshehri brothers aboard Flight 11. Lived in Delray Beach, where a librarian remembers his name on signup sheets to wait to use a computer.





AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77

8:10 a.m.: Departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles

9:40 a.m.: Crashed into the Pentagon



Hani Hanjour, pilot and group leader

Age: 29.

Nationality: Saudi.

Hanjour led the terrorist group based in San Diego. His only Florida contact came in 1996 when he stayed with friends of his brother in Miramar. In the weeks before Sept. 11, he met twice with Mohamed Atta in Las Vegas. The FBI now believes those sessions at a discount motel were crucial in planning the attacks. Hanjour took flying lessons in Scottsdale, Ariz., where his instructors said his skills were poor. Investigators say that could be the reason Flight 77, with Hanjour at the controls, began to jerk.



Nawaf Alhazmi

Age: 25.

Nationality: Unknown.



Majed Moqed

Age: Unknown.

Nationality: Unknown.



Khalid Almihdhar

Age: Unknown.

Nationality: Unknown.



Salem Alhazmi

Age: Uknown.

Nationality: Saudi.





UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93

8:42 a.m.: Departed Newark for San Francisco

10:01 a.m.: Crashed in Stony Creek Township, Penn.



Ziad Samir Jarrah, pilot and group leader

Age: 26.

Nationality: Lebanese.

Jarrah was the leader of the only hijacking group with four members, a factor that may have enabled a group of passengers to overpower them. Raised in a middle-class family, Jarrah left Lebanon in 1996. In Germany, he partied and seemed to enjoy Western culture. In 1999, after meeting Atta, he got his pilot’s license in Hamburg and dropped out of school. He turned up several months later in Venice, Fla., to take flying lessons. In 2001, he moved to Hollywood and began martial arts classes. On Sept. 9, he checked out of a Deerfield Beach motel with Atta, al-Shehhi and others.



Saeed Alghamdi

Age: 25.

Nationality: Saudi.

One of three hijackers who rented a $900-a-month condo in the Delray Beach Racquet Club near I-95. On Sept. 7, Alghamdi and roommate Ahmed Alnami flew from Fort Lauderdale to Newark on Spirit Airlines to get in position for Sept. 11.



Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi

Age: 20.

Nationality: Saudi.

Once lived in Lauderdale by the Sea, two blocks from the beach, with Jarrah. Drove Jarrah’s sporty Mitsubishi Eclipse.



Ahmed Alnami

Age: 23.

Nationality: Saudi.

At 5-feet-9 inches tall, he was among the taller hijackers.



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On the day of the 9-11 attacks, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was asked what the attacks would mean for US-Israeli relations. His quick reply was: "It's very good…….Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy (for Israel)"
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The Five Dancing Israelis

Arrested On 9-11











As the world watched in disbelief and asked the question...



...Mossad operatives were seen dancing with joy.



A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.



The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)



Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)



"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)



[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)



Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)



"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)





One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News:



Dispatcher: Jersey City police.

Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.

Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.

Dispatcher: He has what?

Caller: He's dressed like an Arab. ( 8 )



(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these "Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")





Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey. When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!

According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:



"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (9)



Why did he feel that Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?





The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (10)



The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (11)



The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:



American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (12)



It was reported that three men were arrested and the van contained tonnes of explosives (13).



What's really intriguing is that ABC's 20/20 (14), the New York Post (15), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (16) all clearly and unambiguously reported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.



But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (17), and Yediot America, (18 ) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.



It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating "middle-easterners" in a white van in so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were arrested but later increased the total to five.



Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers would need to have a "get-away van" to pick them up and escape. And notice how the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel- which was where the police had originally been directed to by that anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 "mystery caller". A classic misdirection play.



From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.



The employee, who declined to give his name said: "I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me." These guys were like, "Now America knows what we go through." (19)



A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System's Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System's customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (20).



It was later confirmed that the five detained Israelis were in fact Mossad agents (21). They were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. Some of the movers had been kept in solitary confinement for 40 days. (22)





Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event." (23)

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How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?

It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents - here's the most logical scenario:



1. The Israeli "movers" cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.



3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.



4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis' misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.



5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.



6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department "higher-ups" are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1

CIA Director George Tenet said "You know, this has bin Laden's fingerprints all over it." (24)

The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, "experts", and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.



We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our "freedom" and "democracy". The Muslims were "medieval" and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!



But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the

9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden's statement of denial in which he said:



"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." (25)



You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?



[A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (26)



Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:



When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (27), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” (28 )





To date, the only shred of “evidence” to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find "lying around" in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (29)



There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda "terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.



"I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government ... It will become public at some point when it's turned over to the archives, but that's 20 or 30 years from now" - Senator Bob Graham. (30)





If the sovereign foreign government mentioned by Bob Graham was an enemy of the United States the "compelling evidence" would not be kept secret for 20+ years.



One final point - at 09:40 on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (31). This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed "terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories." (32)



9-11 CNN streamed RealVideo item mentioning a Palestinian claim of responsibility





Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (33) make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the attacks?



Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfil what the goals of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, "A land without people for a people without a land." (34)



The implication of Palestinians in the 9/11 attacks would have handed Zionists a golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been labelled terrorists.







"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox New



"By way of deception, thou shalt do war"

Motto of the Mossad



9-11 Attacks: The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested on 9-11
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Potential Threats To Israel: Saudi Arabia





The Saudis have accumulated one of the most modern militaries in the Arab world. Although there is minimal threat to Israel from Saudi Arabia on its own, the Saudis have participated in previous Arab-Israeli wars, and the prospect that it could do so again, this time with its state-of-the-art weapons arsenal, must be taken seriously. An additional risk that cannot be dismissed is the possibility of a hostile, anti-western regime taking over the country. The Saudis also bankroll military purchases by some of Israelis more direct adversaries, such as Syria.



Saudi Arabia has amassed one of the region’s most advanced militaries. Israeli military assessments must account for the Saudi air force because the quality of Saudi aircraft and aerial missiles are on par with Israeli models, directly impacting on Israel’s vital qualitative military edge.



Saudi Arabia has reportedly transferred much of its advanced F-15 fighter-jet fleet to the Tabuk air base in violation of the kingdom's promises not to do so. As part of the Carter Administration's effort to persuade Congress to approve the controversial sale of F-15s to the Saudis in 1978, U.S. Secretary of Defense Harold Brown said in a letter to Congress that the planes would be based elsewhere in part because they would be too vulnerable at Tabuk.



From this advanced base, the jets could reach Israel's southern border in about six minutes. The United States requested that the Saudis return the planes to their original bases, but they have so far refused to do so. Consequently, Israel has had to increase its monitoring of Saudi Arabia.



In December 2005, Britain and Saudi Arabia signed a memorandum of understanding to increase Britain’s involvement in modernizing the Saudi armed forces and to engage in joint training and exercises. In July 2006, Saudi Arabia is expected to sign a multibillion dollar contract with BAE systems in Britain, which would include the replacement of British-made Tornado jets with perhaps as many as 72 new Eurofighter Typhoon jets. The new fighter, which would not be delivered until 2008, had previously been sold only to countries involved in manufacturing the planes — Britain, Germany, Italy, Spain and Austria.



Nuclear Ambitions?

Concern is growing that Saudi Arabia may also be interested in pursuing a nuclear option, particularly in light of rival Iran's secret nuclear weapons development program. Nevertheless, the International Atomic Energy Agency approved a deal June 16, 2005, that keeps nuclear inspectors out of Saudi Arabia. The IAEA approved the deal despite serious misgivings about such arrangements in this era of heightened proliferation fears.



The Saudis qualified for a “small quantities protocol, ” which frees countries from reporting the possession of up to 10 tons of natural uranium – enough to make a bomb – or up to 20 tons of depleted uranium, depending on the degree of enrichment, and 2.2 pounds of plutonium.



Saudi Stability

Saudi Arabia faces openly critical opposition forces. While Saudi Arabia is considered one of Washington's closest friends in the Gulf, opposition forces have been openly critical of the government and its close ties with the U.S. and the West. In recognition of this sentiment, the Saudi government has been reluctant to host American troops or stockpile American military equipment, which has led the United States to remove most of its troops from the kingdom and to shift its principal military base in the region to Qatar.



While Saudi Arabia is considered one of Washington's closest Gulf allies, several Saudi dissident groups, most notably al-Qaida, have attempted to overthrow the government. The opposition has been openly critical of the government and its close ties with Washington and the West. These groups justify the use of terror to rid Saudi Arabia of all Western influence.



Saudi Arabia was home to 15 of the 19 hijackers who perpetrated the atrocities of September 11 and has been uncooperative in investigating not only those terrorist attacks, but two others perpetrated against Americans on Saudi soil: the November 1995 bombing of the Saudi National Guard training center in Riyadh, which killed five Americans, and the June 25, 1996, attack outside the U.S. Air Force housing facility in Dhahran that killed 19 Americans.



Some Saudi individuals, as well as members of the royal family, have been accused of financing Islamic radicals within countries such as Egypt, Tunisia and Jordan. The monarchy also supports Islamic schools around the world that teach the most extreme interpretation of Islam.



Potential Threats To Israel: Saudi Arabia (Jewish Virtual Library)
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I think that groups inside Saudi Arabia that oppose the Saudi Govenment were the actual bombers/highjackers. I think that one of the groups inside Saudi Arabia that do oppose the Government were recruited by the Mosssad of Israel in an attempt to frame the Palistinians.

I posted all this already but I don't think it was noticed so I reposted it in it's own thread.
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I'm not sure what to think about 9/11 anymore. So many thing just don't add up.
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Zacarias Moussaoui (Arabic: زكريا موسوي Zakariyyā Mūsawiy; born May 30, 1968) is a FRENCH CITIZEN who was convicted of conspiring to kill Americans as part of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. As a result of his conviction, he is serving a life sentence at the Federal ADX Supermax prison in Florence, Colorado.



Moussaoui is said to have been a replacement for the "first" 20th hijacker, possibly Ramzi Binalshibh (bin al-Shibh), an al-Qaeda leader in U.S. custody, a member of the Hamburg cell and an alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks. Binalshibh and Zakariyah Essabar were denied visas. However, prosecutors in Moussaoui's drawn-out trial had difficulty directly connecting him to the 19 participants.

Moussaoui's trial was seen in some circles as a barometer of the ability and willingness of the United States to give a fair hearing to terrorism suspects. Others objected to the degree to which the court and especially Judge Leonie Brinkema tolerated the bizarre and threatening courtroom behavior of Moussaoui.[2] Moussaoui expressed contempt for the trial and court by introducing legal motions deriding Judge Brinkema, surprised onlookers by electing to represent himself in court, and rankled federal prosecutors by requesting the presence of captured al-Qaeda members as witnesses in his case. During the course of the proceedings, Moussaoui admitted his guilt in various degrees, and to being a member of al-Qaeda.

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I'm not sure what to think about 9/11 anymore. So many thing just don't add up.


I’m finally beginning to understand why the mass media has insisted on putting the phrase “9/11″ into our psyche (as opposed to “September 11″ or “09/11/01″):



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“I’ve just realized something relatively mind-blowing:

The letter A is the 1st letter of the alphabet, and H is the 8th.

9/11 (9 divided by 11) = 0.81 81 81 81 infinity = ha ha ha ha …”




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