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Old May 19th, 2016, 09:33 AM   #41
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You can't make friends with a snake. Snakes bite, it's what they do. Iran never even signed the deal ole Obama is touting as a "success".
But Iran did sign and ratify its membership in the UN, which serves as the mechanism by which the key features of that deal went into force by means of a UN Security Council resolution.

Thus, no actual signature regarding that Iran deal was even required.

And I suppose to you it is far better if many thousands of uranium enriching centrifuges were still producing many kilos of low-enriched uranium in Iran every week or so, as well as Iran keeping a dozen or so 1st generation nuclear weapons worth of low enriched uranium on hand?
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But Iran did sign and ratify its membership in the UN, which serves as the mechanism by which the key features of that deal went into force by means of a UN Security Council resolution.

Thus, no actual signature regarding that Iran deal was even required.

And I suppose to you it is far better if many thousands of uranium enriching centrifuges were still producing many kilos of low-enriched uranium in Iran every week or so, as well as Iran keeping a dozen or so 1st generation nuclear weapons worth of low enriched uranium on hand?
How many spots were allowed to be inspected in the treaty that really is not a treaty with Iran? Was it limited to only 2 sites? I cant remember
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But Iran did sign and ratify its membership in the UN, which serves as the mechanism by which the key features of that deal went into force by means of a UN Security Council resolution.

Thus, no actual signature of that Iran deal was even required.

And I suppose to you it is far better if many thousands of uranium enriching centrifuges were still producing many kilos of low-enriched uranium in Iran every week or so, as well as Iran keeping a dozen or so 1st generation nuclear weapons worth of low enriched uranium on hand?
Sorry, they are snakes and snakes bite. I actually feel bad for folks like you, you have no idea at all what we are dealing with. You will find out soon enough. It's interesting to me that you take into account the Religious ideology of Al Qaeda but not of the Iranians, both are equally toxic and both are ruled by their belief systems. I suggest you research Taqiyya.
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How many spots were allowed to be inspected in the treaty that really is not a treaty with Iran? Was it limited to only 2 sites? I cant remember
Well, since you are asking me these questions, then you apparently haven't a clue.
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Sorry, they are snakes and snakes bite. I actually feel bad for folks like you, you have no idea at all what we are dealing with. You will find out soon enough. It's interesting to me that you take into account the Religious ideology of Al Qaeda but not of the Iranians, both are equally toxic and both are ruled by their belief systems. I suggest you research Taqiyya.
So then I can only conclude from your response above that you think it is far better if many thousands of uranium enriching centrifuges were still producing many kilos of low-enriched uranium in Iran every week or so, as well as Iran keeping a dozen or so 1st generation nuclear weapons worth of low enriched uranium on hand.
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wouldn't the first thing to be done have been to actually declare war so we could fight a WAR instead of a "situation?"
No. We declare war on states. To declare war is to consider the enemy at least a political entity. This would give them recognition, power and influence that we can't afford to give and frankly they don't deserve.
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Held on? Well that's obvious: establish permanent bases with set amount of troops to be left there (just like in other NATO allies during the Cold War, because of course eventually South Vietnam would have to join NATO)
You don't even know what NATO stands for.
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You can't make friends with a snake. Snakes bite, it's what they do. Iran never even signed the deal ole Obama is touting as a "success".
We made friends with the USSR, with Saudi Arabia, and with another dozen countries that could arguably deserve the same kind of labeling.
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You don't even know what NATO stands for.
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You don't even know what NATO stands for.
You consider Greece and Turkey as being on the North Atlantic?
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