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Old September 17th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #21
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But my grand parents and great grand parents were....And you don't have a fucking clue....asshat!!!
So what were your parents and grandparents. Were they German? Did they live in Poland at the time? Do they also believe that 6 million jews were murdered in the holocaust? Anything I say you are probably going to discount as German propaganda. But I saw articles about invading German forces finding thousands of badly decomposed murdered ethnic Germans. To be in that state, they must have been murdered before the Germans invaded.

But suppose we get down to brass tacks. This is what REALLY matters. It's that Hitler was RIGHT!!! Maybe if imaginethat is reading this, he-she can tell me if I could suggest another forum to you. Where you and I can debate the matter. Because if I do so here, chances are that I will get banned. (And not for telling lies!)
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Old September 17th, 2016, 02:53 PM   #22
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You sir are a complete and total fucking moron.
There's only one way to know for sure. Did YOU personally take the photos I included? Or are you saying that they were fake; from after Germany invaded; of some other kinds of dead people from some other event; etc.
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Wasn't Russia in on the slaughter of Pol's and Polish Jews?
Apparently jimgorn partially answered for me. Yes. The Russians executed around 22,000 Poles in the Kaytn massacre. German forces didn't execute their Polish POW's.
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Old September 17th, 2016, 03:03 PM   #24
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Yeah.....A little deal called the Katlyn Forest???....How about when the Russians just sat outside of Warsaw during the Warsaw uprising....??...
How sure are you that there even was a Warsaw uprising. I have heard so much blatant B.S. about Hitler and WW II in general, it is hard to say. Maybe you watched that recent TV show, "Secret Nazi Files." (I wasn't about to watch that propaganda) With history being written by the victors, I wonder how dry the ink was on those "secret Nazi files."
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Old September 17th, 2016, 03:07 PM   #25
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You are the living proof that it doesn't.
Tell me something I said that is untrue. Anything, anywhere. I still find it likely that ethnic Germans were being murdered by Poles before Germany invaded. From what I have seen here and there, there is a long history of animosity between Germans and Poles.
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US refused to sell steel to Japan.
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Old September 17th, 2016, 04:21 PM   #27
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Until Germany attacked Russia, Russia was an ally of the Germans. The U.S. would have had no reason to supply them. Next, I doubt very much if Germany and Russia divided up Poland before Germany invaded. If that's what you're getting at. If they had, don't you think that they would have agreed to invade jointly? So war wouldn't be declared on one particular side? Though even if it had been Russia that invaded first, I doubt if war would have been declared on them.

Next, Germany and Russia were destined to go to war. And according to at least one book, there is apparently evidence that three weeks after Germany invaded Russia, the Russians were scheduled to invade Germany. I'm afraid that metaphorically speaking, it is you who thinks the earth is flat. And we did go to the moon.
The joint invasion of Poland by Germany and Russia began, "officially," WWII.
The Invasion of Poland, also known as the September Campaign, or the 1939 Defensive War in Poland (Polish: Kampania wrześniowa or Wojna obronna 1939 roku), and alternatively the Poland Campaign (German: Polenfeldzug) or Fall Weiss in Germany (Case White), was a joint invasion of Poland by Nazi Germany, the Free City of Danzig, the Soviet Union, and a small Slovak contingent, that marked the beginning of World War II in Europe. The German invasion began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, while the Soviet invasion commenced on 17 September following the Molotov-Tōgō agreement that terminated the Russian and Japanese hostilities in the east on 16 September. The campaign ended on 6 October with Germany and the Soviet Union dividing and annexing the whole of Poland under the terms of the German-Soviet Frontier Treaty.
You have gaps and fantasies in your historical knowledge. The German invasion of Russia, Operation Barbarossa, commenced on June 22, 1941. Stalin had no particular beef with Germany, but Hitler plainly stated in Mein Kampf that he intended to destroy the Soviet Union. Russia and Germany never were true allies.
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When Arch-Duke Ferdinand was assassinated by the Serbian anarchist started WW1. WW2 was a direct result of the Treaty of Versailles immediately following WW1. It only took one anarchist to start both World Wars.
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US refused to sell steel to Japan.
It was cutting off Japan's oil that made them make the fatal mistake of attacking us.
Japan has ZERO oil fields and must import ALL of its oil, back then almost all of it from the U.S.
The U.S, Dutch, French, Brits and Australians were no more going to let Japan take over Asia than the Allies were going to let Germany over-run all of Europe.
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It was cutting off Japan's oil that made them make the fatal mistake of attacking us.
Japan has ZERO oil fields and must import ALL of its oil, back then almost all of it from the U.S.
The U.S, Dutch, French, Brits and Australians were no more going to let Japan take over Asia than the Allies were going to let Germany over-run all of Europe.
Then the Alaska Pipeline was built which I thought was a good idea at the time. Come to find out that more than 90% of the pipeline oil goes to Japan and not the United States. Japan should rebuild its military and invade south east Asia again and take out the South China Sea oil rather than our oil.
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