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Old September 17th, 2016, 04:51 PM   #31
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Then the Alaska Pipeline was built which I thought was a good idea at the time. Come to find out that more than 90% of the pipeline oil goes to Japan and not the United States. Japan should rebuild its military and invade south east Asia again and take out the South China Sea oil rather than our oil.
I thought everyone from the very start understood that the vast majority of the oil would be shipped to Japan.
"OUR OIL" ????
You mean the U.S. has nationalized the oil industry and that oil is no longer the private property of the multinational oil corporations, but the property of the United States Government (the people.) SERIOUSLY?

When the fuck did THIS happen? SHIT! No one tells me these things!
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I thought everyone from the very start understood that the vast majority of the oil would be shipped to Japan.
"OUR OIL" ????
You mean the U.S. has nationalized the oil industry and that oil is no longer the private property of the multinational oil corporations, but the property of the United States Government (the people.) SERIOUSLY?

When the fuck did THIS happen? SHIT! No one tells me these things!
Alaska is the 49th State. The world is not going to wean off oil anytime in the near future. You and I were born on United States soil so that makes it OUR OIL.
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Alaska is the 49th State. The world is not going to wean off oil anytime in the near future. You and I were born on United States soil so that makes it OUR OIL.
Only in your dreams. What are you, some kind of commie?
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Only in your dreams. What are you, some kind of commie?
Giving away our natural resources to foreign countries is globalization which is commie mantra. You might want to give your stuff away but I want to keep my stuff. Why the commie below the belt punch.
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Giving away our natural resources to foreign countries is globalization which is commie mantra. You might want to give your stuff away but I want to keep my stuff. Why the commie below the belt punch.
GIVING AWAY???
Just for the hell of it. It just irritates me when people who know better try to talk as if the American people, as represented by our elected officials, "OWN" a natural resource such as oil.
AND you just did it again with the reference to "MY STUFF."
You know damn good and well "your" oil belongs to people such as BP (British Petroleum) and Exxon/Mobil and it will be sold to whom, and when and how as they determine will be most profitable to them.
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GIVING AWAY???
Just for the hell of it. It just irritates me when people who know better try to talk as if the American people, as represented by our elected officials, "OWN" a natural resource such as oil.
AND you just did it again with the reference to "MY STUFF."
You know damn good and well "your" oil belongs to people such as BP (British Petroleum) and Exxon/Mobil and it will be sold to whom, and when and how as they determine will be most profitable to them.
Ever hear of the Strategic Oil Reserves in bored out salt domes in Louisiana that is still filled up I hope. I look at Alaska oil as strategic. Our Helium strategic reserve is almost gone and nobody is talking about that.
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Ever hear of the Strategic Oil Reserves in bored out salt domes in Louisiana that is still filled up I hope. I look at Alaska oil as strategic. Our Helium strategic reserve is almost gone and nobody is talking about that.
LOL why yes indeed I have. Tell me what percentage of the total oil production recovered from American property does in contain at any given point in time?
I would be shocked as all hell if it was as much as 1% of the total.
Even you say "I hope" it is filled up. because you don't know. Why don't you know where "your" oil is?
It simply does not matter what you "look at as strategic."
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LOL why yes indeed I have. Tell me what percentage of the total oil production recovered from American property does in contain at any given point in time?
I would be shocked as all hell if it was as much as 1% of the total.
Even you say "I hope" it is filled up. because you don't know. Why don't you know where "your" oil is?
It simply does not matter what you "look at as strategic."
If memory serves me correctly the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is only designed to last the United States three weeks or so to fuel the entire United States. Using it for only military purposes would extend that to a couple of years. Always have a contingency plan.
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So what were your parents and grandparents. Were they German? Did they live in Poland at the time? Do they also believe that 6 million jews were murdered in the holocaust? Anything I say you are probably going to discount as German propaganda. But I saw articles about invading German forces finding thousands of badly decomposed murdered ethnic Germans. To be in that state, they must have been murdered before the Germans invaded.

But suppose we get down to brass tacks. This is what REALLY matters. It's that Hitler was RIGHT!!! Maybe if imaginethat is reading this, he-she can tell me if I could suggest another forum to you. Where you and I can debate the matter. Because if I do so here, chances are that I will get banned. (And not for telling lies!)
My grand parents and great grand parents (father's side)were Poles and Ukrainians..... and I am damn sure they weren't killing Germans....They came here to escape the damned Commies....
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US refused to sell steel to Japan.
I was mainly getting at what started war in Europe. But let's talk about what you brought up. The U.S. did impose sanctions on Japan for their military action in Manchuria. But I doubt if that's what caused them to attack. Last night I was watching one of those conspiracy shows. One of the things they talked about was the Pearl Harbor attack. Apparently, back before the Pearl Harbor attack, 80% of Americans were against getting involved in another European war. They talked about a declassified military document that brought up five things that should be done to provoke the Japanese into attacking. (No doubt to get the American public behind going to war) All of them were done.

Also, the U.S. had decrypted and was reading the messages between Japan and their consulates here in the U.S. They KNEW the attack was going to happen. But of course did nothing. It is also highly suspicious that our most valuable assets there, the aircraft carriers, just happened to be away at the time. I also remember seeing a thing on TV about the war crimes trials against Japan after the war. They had judges from different countries proceeding over the trials. The judge from India said that the U.S. had goaded the Japanese into war.
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