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Old August 6th, 2017, 08:42 PM   #1
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Women in Combat is a Mistake

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Old August 9th, 2017, 02:45 PM   #3
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Why don't they just create a battalion of women, transgender, as well as homosexual/lesbian soldiers and see what they can do? They might do a great job.
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Old August 9th, 2017, 03:09 PM   #4
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Let's make sure we're looking at the entire message including this:
"...one important caveat of the tests is that many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs."

Some things are obvious. Men are larger and stronger than women so yes. They can carry heavier loads. They can probably carry a 200 pound man out of harm's way, but can female mechanics in aircraft, for example, squeeze into smaller spaces? Lead patrols? Work as a gunner? Secure valuable intelligence by speaking to Afghan women who won't speak to men? Work undercover?

There are plenty of jobs in the military, including combat units: snipers, drive tanks, fire mortars, lead, strategize. Women can most certainly do well in those positions.
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One of the best officers I've ever had so far in my short time in the military was a female infantry Captain from the Royal Canadian Regiment. She's a weapons expert, jump qualified and overall quite the badass.

One of the people at RMC I respect the most is a transgender woman. She's a veteran of both Bosnia and Afghanistan, has a PHD in Military History and is a leading expert on Canadian Military Studies.

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Let's make sure we're looking at the entire message including this:
"...one important caveat of the tests is that many of of the male study participants had previously served in combat units, whereas female participants, by necessity, came directly from infantry schools or from noncombat jobs."

Some things are obvious. Men are larger and stronger than women so yes. They can carry heavier loads. They can probably carry a 200 pound man out of harm's way, but can female mechanics in aircraft, for example, squeeze into smaller spaces? Lead patrols? Work as a gunner? Secure valuable intelligence by speaking to Afghan women who won't speak to men? Work undercover?

There are plenty of jobs in the military, including combat units: snipers, drive tanks, fire mortars, lead, strategize. Women can most certainly do well in those positions.
They can probably carry a 200 pound man out of harm's way

Very few.
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They can probably carry a 200 pound man out of harm's way

Very few.
I've been on dozens of ruck marches and obstacle courses in my time training. In that training, I, a 6 foot 1 multi-athlete weighing 180 pounds, was often struggling to stay ahead of women a foot shorter than me and dozens of pounds lighter. The women made up for their lack of strength with determination.

One time, I was on a summer training course for the second stage of becoming an infantry officer, and we had to get up at 4:30 am for PT (physical training). We did two hours non stop of a circuit that included fireman carries, hill sprints, low crawls, you name it. Most of the girls were right there with the guys the entire time. My Fire Team Partner was a girl, and she fireman carried me at least a dozen times like it was nothing. I remember later that day during a ruck march seeing her, this 5 foot 2 girl who's ruck was bigger than her, running to the back of the formation to help the second in command push and motivate people following behind back into line.

It's like the Navy Seals say: everything is more mental than physical. Sure it helps to be in a great shape, but nothing can match the power of the human mind.
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I've been on dozens of ruck marches and obstacle courses in my time training. In that training, I, a 6 foot 1 multi-athlete weighing 180 pounds, was often struggling to stay ahead of women a foot shorter than me and dozens of pounds lighter. The women made up for their lack of strength with determination.

One time, I was on a summer training course for the second stage of becoming an infantry officer, and we had to get up at 4:30 am for PT (physical training). We did two hours non stop of a circuit that included fireman carries, hill sprints, low crawls, you name it. Most of the girls were right there with the guys the entire time. My Fire Team Partner was a girl, and she fireman carried me at least a dozen times like it was nothing. I remember later that day during a ruck march seeing her, this 5 foot 2 girl who's ruck was bigger than her, running to the back of the formation to help the second in command push and motivate people following behind back into line.

It's like the Navy Seals say: everything is more mental than physical. Sure it helps to be in a great shape, but nothing can match the power of the human mind.
Very few, and since I had to be carried out I'd have to know ahead of time that they could.
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Very few, and since I had to be carried out I'd have to know ahead of time that they could.
Did you not read what I just wrote?

And are you in the Armed Forces?
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Don't leave me hanging, what were the results of the test and was it live fire?
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