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Old March 30th, 2018, 04:21 PM   #11
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Deployment is down, but we still have hundreds of thousands of soldiers deployed overseas.



As far as I'm concerned, that's cool.
Modern technology has enabled the United States to project power without it having to be boots on the ground so to speak.
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Old March 31st, 2018, 05:15 AM   #12
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About WWI Charles Sarolea wrote a book warning that Germany was mobilizing for war. He described the differences between the Germans in the west and the Prussians who lived for a love of war. He made a clear argument that it was the Prussians mobilizing Germany for war.

Back in the day, it was the Prussians we disliked instead of the communist and another book "Poverty and Riches" seems to say we should take Germany's side in the war and oppose England. At that time, England was protecting its class society. England rejected education for technology that was the focus of German education because such an education destroys the class system England wanted to keep. Education for technology and that changed social order, mixes up the classes creating greater equality. Our military personnel praised the German education focus on technology, and our schools adopted it for military reasons when we mobilized for the first world war. Following WWII President Eisenhower praised the Germans for their contribution to democracy. We also adopted the Prussian model of bureaucracy and we are now the what we defended our democracy against in two world wars.

That paragraph could be confusing because I said we were opposed to Prussians and yet we imitated them and we are now what we defended our democracy against. I hope people ask questions about the contradiction.

Sometimes entire nations need psycho analysis like individuals do, and we have a lot to learn about ourselves and our national craziness.
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Old March 31st, 2018, 05:27 AM   #13
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Jughead Obama did try and gut the military. You just be in denial over what the traitor did. I can post a lot of data on it but if you are a liberal it will be a waste of my time because liberals do not want to hear about what jughead did.
Excuse me. The United States of America demobilized after war until Eisenhower and the Korean war. Eisenhower established the Military Industrial Complex and we are now what we defended our democracy against.

The American Revolution was sparked by a tax revolt. England needed that tax money to support its military which it turned on us to suppress the rebellion. I think we have a lot to learn about our democracy and why we are no longer fulfilling the American dream that began during the Age of Enlightenment.

Being what we defended our democracy against, is not being a good citizen of the democratic ideal for which our forefathers fought. As I said in the post before this one, the US needs psycho analysis.
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Old March 31st, 2018, 05:33 AM   #14
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Modern technology has enabled the United States to project power without it having to be boots on the ground so to speak.
Also the economic interest the US must protect are in the Mid East and Africa, not Europe. Maintaining control of oil is essential to our economy. When the world stops trading oil in dollars, we are in very deep trouble!!!

He who controls oil controls the world.

I think we need to examine what makes the US great.
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Jughead Obama did try and gut the military. You just be in denial over what the traitor did. I can post a lot of data on it but if you are a liberal it will be a waste of my time because liberals do not want to hear about what jughead did.
Nonsense. You simply misuse the word "gut" purposely for partisan political reasons.
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Excuse me. The United States of America demobilized after war until Eisenhower and the Korean war. Eisenhower established the Military Industrial Complex and we are now what we defended our democracy against.

The American Revolution was sparked by a tax revolt. England needed that tax money to support its military which it turned on us to suppress the rebellion. I think we have a lot to learn about our democracy and why we are no longer fulfilling the American dream that began during the Age of Enlightenment.

Being what we defended our democracy against, is not being a good citizen of the democratic ideal for which our forefathers fought. As I said in the post before this one, the US needs psycho analysis.
Let's be honest here.
One of the reason that Britain needed the higher taxation was due to the fact that it was still suffering from the economic impact of the Seven Years War, called the French &Indian War in America. Huge amounts had been spent in defending America from the french & Indian attacks and the "colonists" were less than enthusiastic about kickin in their share of taxes. And, of course, the fighting all over the world.
The Seven years War was a global conflict that involved almost every major power in Europe and spanned five continents. The fighting in America was just a small part of it. VERY expensive.
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"I hate wars for economic reasons and the glory of leaders. I think conscription should forever be forbidden and considered an international war crime."


Yah. I'm not sure that the US should have intervened in WWI - & when we did, we could have leveraged our supply & logistic & military power to try to correct some issues: Tear up the Sykes-Picot Agreement, defend defeated Germany against massive war reparations & dismemberment (in the interests of preventing WWII), & likely others. Pres. Wilson was unworldly - he'd have done much better to have treated Versailles as just more collegiate academics meeting to negotiate workloads.

In WWII, we didn't have much choice. Our policy was trending towards toward UK & allies, but Imperial Japan's attack upon Hawaii & the Philippines didn't leave us any alternative. & Germany also declared war upon us, so there you go.

I think we can justify a small nimble professional military establishment in the US in self-defense. One of the problems with a large standing military is that they get to competing for budget, personnel & mission-creep. If they're not kept sufficiently busy, they start lobbying for more & bigger slices of the military budget. It's a complicated puzzle for a republic, & requires a steady hand & cool eye in the executive & legislative branches - something we haven't had for a long time, especially in the legislative. Congress needs to become much more aggressive in defending its political turf, & actually thrashing out the issues of the day: budget, defense, national economic policy, agriculture, education & on & on - the tiresome minutiae of administration. It's what they're there for, isn't it?
WW1 and WW2 were before my time and I was a baby when Korea started. The only war I can speak with authority is Vietnam. The Democrats cut off my food and oil but only one democrat turned our food and oil back on, Wilber Mills from Arkansas. Put a man in a combat and shut down his food and oil. Wilber Mills had a secret fund and I have the original Richard Nixon signed letter to Wilber Mills giving thanks. Nixon signed the letter with only a script N. Napoleon also signed his letters with a script N.
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Let's be honest here.
One of the reason that Britain needed the higher taxation was due to the fact that it was still suffering from the economic impact of the Seven Years War, called the French &Indian War in America. Huge amounts had been spent in defending America from the french & Indian attacks and the "colonists" were less than enthusiastic about kickin in their share of taxes. And, of course, the fighting all over the world.
The Seven years War was a global conflict that involved almost every major power in Europe and spanned five continents. The fighting in America was just a small part of it. VERY expensive.
Patrick Henry speaks of revolution differently.
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“They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power.”
― Patrick Henry
Now if we look at India and how the British ruled it and other colonies, I am sure we can agree the revolution was begun during the Age of Enlightenment and the Age of Reason and the philosophical debates regarding the nature of man and government. It just took the discovery of new land to express the new hopes for humanity. We were not to be ruled as the countries of Europe ruled their own people, and certainly not as they ruled their colonies!

Also, Calvinism was a huge revolution that turned the values system of Christendom upside down. We went from thinking money was so evil, only the Jews would do banking, to thinking wealth was a blessing of God, and the social/economic order of England prevented individuals from realizing their economic potential. The new land meant unlimited freedom to realize one's economic potential, especially before the land on the east coast was all bought up. The opening up the west reopened that freedom.

I think we need to know about why people migrated to the new land. They came for different reasons and had different goals. From economic freedom to religious freedom, the new land gave people opportunities they could not have in any European country, including England.
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WW1 and WW2 were before my time and I was a baby when Korea started. The only war I can speak with authority is Vietnam. The Democrats cut off my food and oil but only one democrat turned our food and oil back on, Wilber Mills from Arkansas. Put a man in a combat and shut down his food and oil. Wilber Mills had a secret fund and I have the original Richard Nixon signed letter to Wilber Mills giving thanks. Nixon signed the letter with only a script N. Napoleon also signed his letters with a script N.
If you can prove that letter was from Nixon it should be worth thousands of dollars. How did you come to possess that letter?

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May 3, 1992 - Wilbur D. Mills, a dominant figure in the House of Representatives for more than two decades, died yesterday at his home in Kensett, Ark. He was 82 years ... Speaker Sam Rayburn, who appointed him to the House Banking and Currency Committee in 1939, and to the Ways and Means Committee in 1943.
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Also the economic interest the US must protect are in the Mid East and Africa, not Europe. Maintaining control of oil is essential to our economy. When the world stops trading oil in dollars, we are in very deep trouble!!!

He who controls oil controls the world.

I think we need to examine what makes the US great.
Yes & no. The US is on track to become a net energy exporter again (not since the 1950s), by 2026 (see United States could be an energy exporter by 2026, EIA suggests - Business Insider)

Our main concern internationally with oil/natgas is to shield Europe & our allies from undue political/economic pressure over fuel supplies (China mostly imports & consumes energy - the CIS gains influence/income from gaming the international fuel market).

I think we (the US, & probably the West) should leapfrog the entire fossil fuel industry, & put our emphasis on fusion power generation, or solar arrays in orbit - so that dependable power supplies are assured. We can also hope that the price of power will drop, but that may take a while.
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