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Old May 26th, 2008, 08:11 AM   #1
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War Funding

Last week the US Congress addressed war funding following a request from the president a year earlier. The House of Representatives couldn't get it together at all when house Republicans voted present leaving the vote up to Democrats. The funding failed in the House but a GI Bill and Unemployment Insurance extension along with numerous other pork projects went forward to the Senate.



In the Senate the Democratic leadership introduced the failed House war funding amendment that contained time lines for withdraw and troop turnaround restrictions and it failed as an overwhelming majority voted it down. Then the Leader introduced a "clean" war funding bill and it passed the Senate with a 75% margin along with the GI Bill and Unemployment Insurance extension along with numerous other pork projects. The Senate patted themselves on the back and left a day early for the holiday recess and sent the package to the House of Representatives for approval.



The House leadership didn't take up the war funding along with the GI Bill and Unemployment Insurance extension along with numerous other pork projects, but in stead just punched the clock and departed a day early on their recess too.



The House left on recess because they can't pass the war funding along with the GI Bill and Unemployment Insurance extension along with numerous other pork projects. Why can't they pass the consolidated bill the Senate sent them, it has all the stuff politicians want?



Senator Obama slammed Senator McCain for not supporting the GI Bill! Senator Obama voted YES supporting the war funding. Senator Clinton voted NO with the minority.



Now in the House the war funding lingers on recess and awaits a Democratic majority that almost all members will vote NO on the war funding along with the GI Bill and Unemployment Insurance extension along with numerous other pork projects. Even Obama's super duper delegates will vote opposite him and vote no on the package deal. Republicans, or most of them will vote PRESENT, leaving the Democrats to vote against war funding along with the GI Bill and Unemployment Insurance extension along with numerous other pork projects killing the measure.



Is the Congressional Democratic leadership dysfunctional or what?
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Old May 26th, 2008, 08:41 AM   #2
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I sure wish that Congress can fund the gas tanks of our cars.
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Old May 26th, 2008, 04:35 PM   #3
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I sure wish that Congress can fund the gas tanks of our cars.
It seems no one wants to debate the topic?



If the Dems take congress and the presidency we will all be able to ride our bicycles to our union ran solar panel factory.
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It seems no one wants to debate the topic?



If the Dems take congress and the presidency we will all be able to ride our bicycles to our union ran solar panel factory.


That would be nice. Much better than stuck in traffic with a car that gets 19 mpg on 5 dollar a gallon gas on my way to a coal factory that's polluting our air, destroying our environment, and killing our posterity.
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That would be nice. Much better than stuck in traffic with a car that gets 19 mpg on 5 dollar a gallon gas on my way to a coal factory that's polluting our air, destroying our environment, and killing our posterity.


Kat, it seems you forgot another advantage to the riding bicycles....Americans would slim down from all that fast food they're eating. For a change we'd not be at the top of the list of nations high in obesity rates...
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If the Dems take congress and the presidency we will all be able to ride our bicycles to our union ran solar panel factory.




And the problem with that is?



In the mean time people can pay and pay to hop into their cars to get to work and take food out of their children's mouth just so they can put a roof over their heads. Never mind summer camp.
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You won't get an argument from me about cleaning up the environment, I'm a tree hugger. I was into solar decades ago and attended a solar energy course at Fayetteville Technical Institute back in the 70's near Ft. Bragg. I built, with my own hands a passive/active solar heated home following the graduation from the course. About 15 years ago I designed and built my own solar hot water system from junk and it has produced all of my families hot water ever since. Last year I built a steam engine and boiler powered by waste engine oil that charges my solar power battery bank. I got the idea for the boiler from this tree hugger group Journey to Forever's Waste Oil Heater



The problem with the environmental wackos that support the Democratic Party is they cannot use logic and reason to see the path to their desires and insist on "one way" methods that never work with politics outside of a dictatorship. To transition to clean alternative energy will require use of dirty energy in the meanwhile to keep the people moving. My point is based on the 1970's oil embargo when the odd-even days with lines at the gas pump made the politician responsible, Jimmy Carter as popular as a skunk. He started solar when I did but his replacements ripped them from the roofs out of spite and the people cheered his leaving the white house.



Why is the Mid East a national concern for the US? Following WWI it was a national concern for Europe, the old Ottoman Empire was broken up following the war because they chose the wrong side, the same following WWII, again the ME nations were on the losing side and Europe's security depended on the oil there to fight a "European War". America did not have an interest because we had oil in the US... or at least we did up until the late 60's when the environmentalist in my club started taking over the Democratic Party stopping domestic exploration.



The Gulf War was caused by environmentalists! The Gulf was in Europe's national interests and not the US's until the environmentalist made it that way.



Now, back to the debate, we need funding for the war that the environmentalist started. Will the Democrats allow it to be funded?
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Kat, it seems you forgot another advantage to the riding bicycles....Americans would slim down from all that fast food they're eating. For a change we'd not be at the top of the list of nations high in obesity rates...


Oh yeah. Remember when a man wanted to sue McDonald's because all of that fast food made him obese? A very silly lawsuit. He did it to himself. *SIGH*
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Oh yeah. Remember when a man wanted to sue McDonald's because all of that fast food made him obese? A very silly lawsuit. He did it to himself. *SIGH*


What's sillier is the fact that people like that WIN those lawsuits...Seems in some cases, common sense is thrown out the door in regards to lawsuit settlements.
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What's sillier is the fact that people like that WIN those lawsuits...Seems in some cases, common sense is thrown out the door in regards to lawsuit settlements.


I think the guy lost his lawsuit. That's a 180 compared to the woman who sued and won against McD's when she spilled hot coffee on her hand. Oh well.
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