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Old August 28th, 2017, 03:48 AM   #11
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The Tudors themselves were Welsh, so one might wonder how many Welsh-Gaelic words since the 1500s have been absorbed into the Mother Tongue. I also understand that Northumbria managed to stay somewhat autonomous even during the Danelaw. So Yorkish would be closer to ancient Saxon, or Scottish, if I understand correctly.
Gaelic is an entirely different language, and scarcely any, if any at all of their language entered English with the Tudors. Remember that all Britain spoke British before the Romans disarmed the people, creating the need for mercenaries. The Danelaw was the East, its the biggest centre was, in fact. York.
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Gaelic is an entirely different language, and scarcely any, if any at all of their language entered English with the Tudors. Remember that all Britain spoke British before the Romans disarmed the people, creating the need for mercenaries. The Danelaw was the East, its the biggest centre was, in fact. York.
I understand that as late as the 12th century both Henry II and Eleanor were essentially French in language and culture, in fact she was prior to their marriage the de facto Queen of France. And their kids, in particular Richard I probably spent no more than 6 months of his entire life in England. I'm not certain about John or the other two. Also during the Roses Henry VII was separated from his mother, Margaret Beaufort, for his own protection and literally raised in the court of France.
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I understand that as late as the 12th century both Henry II and Eleanor were essentially French in language and culture, in fact she was prior to their marriage the de facto Queen of France. And their kids, in particular Richard I probably spent no more than 6 months of his entire life in England. I'm not certain about John or the other two. Also during the Roses Henry VII was separated from his mother, Margaret Beaufort, for his own protection and literally raised in the court of France.
I think you'd probably be up to at least Henry V to find royals at complete ease with English. I've not heard it much commented on.
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I think you'd probably be up to at least Henry V to find royals at complete ease with English. I've not heard it much commented on.
I suppose after Agincourt it was deemed unpatriotic to display an affinity for French things, including language. Although the divide probably began with Edward III, and the way his claim to the French crown via his mother was spurned by the Paris Court.
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Amigos eu só falo de história europeia,primeiro vou fazer uma pergunta meu poste em português inglês e françes e espanhol castelhano a minha pergunta tem a ver com as linguas romanica latinas. a lingua francesa tem 60% de latim e é considerado um país latino a inglaterra tem 60% de latim e não é considerado país de lingua latina eu pergunto porquê

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Amigos só falo da historia europea, primeiro vou facer unha pregunta o meu post en portugués inglés e francés e castelán español a miña pregunta ten que ver coas linguas Romanica Latina. a lingua francesa é do 60% latín e considérase un país latino. A Inglaterra ten o 60% de latín e non se considera un país de lingua latina. Pregunta por que


Galêgo de Espanha - Galego de Espanã .................................................. .................................................. ...............



amigos, yo sólo hablo de historia europea, primero voy a hacer una pregunta mi post en portugués inglés y francés y español castellano mi pregunta tiene que ver con las lenguas románicas latinas. la lengua francesa tiene el 60% de latín y es considerado un país latino a inglaterra tiene el 60% de latín y no es considerado país de lengua latina pregunto por qué

Castelán español

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friends I only speak of European history, first I will ask a question my post in Portuguese English and French and Spanish Castilian my question has to do with Romanica Latina languages. the French language is 60% Latin and it is considered a Latin country. england has 60% Latin and it is not considered a Latin language country. I ask why
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amis, je ne parle que de l'histoire européenne, d'abord je poserai une question sur mon commentaire en portugais anglais et français et castillan espagnol. Ma question concerne les langues Romanica Latina. la langue française est 60% latine et elle est considérée comme un pays latin. L'Angleterre a 60% de latin et elle n'est pas considérée comme un pays de langue latine. Je demande pourquoi

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amici parlo solo della storia europea, in primo luogo chiedo una domanda il mio post in Portoghese Inglese e Francese e Castigliano Spagnolo la mia domanda ha a che fare con le lingue di Romanica Latina. la lingua francese è del 60% latino ed è considerata un paese latino, l'Inghilterra ha il 60% di latino e non è considerato un paese di lingua latina.

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prieteni vorbesc doar despre istoria europeană, mai întâi voi pune o întrebare în postul meu în portugheză engleză și franceză și spaniolă castiliană întrebarea mea are de a face cu limbile Romanica Latina. limba franceză este de 60% latină și este considerată o țară latină, engleza are 60% latină și nu este considerată țară cu limbă latină.

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after all, I have added three more noalatinas, and what will be the best translation of English for this Neolithic language.

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already take advantage of the differences that exist between the Latin languages, the most similar to the Portuguese is the Galician language.
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do not forget to answer my question about the English language that has 60% Latin

in my opinion the Romanian language is more akin to the French - Italian Portuguese Spanish Castilian has many similarities written words equal with different meanings

for example Portuguese Italians we write equal and we read equal this word as it has many with equal and different meanings is the case of this word we write equal with different meaning.


word - Burro - in Portuguese it's an animal

word - Burro - in Italian it's butter

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Avlis - The origins and the basic grammar of English are Germanic, as are most of the common words, tho 'Dad', 'Mam' and 'Nan' are probably (Celtic) British. Priests and scholars knew Latin and administrators French, and the vocabulary suggests its origins in the sort of activity it deals with.
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Avlis - The origins and the basic grammar of English are Germanic, as are most of the common words, tho 'Dad', 'Mam' and 'Nan' are probably (Celtic) British. Priests and scholars knew Latin and administrators French, and the vocabulary suggests its origins in the sort of activity it deals with.
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friend iolo the alphabet of the English language is Latin.
and the English language has 60% of Latin words, many words are even written the same as the Portuguese with the different pronunciation which is normal
as well as the English language has many words of Arabic and Greek and Hebrew origin as the Latin languages were constructed.
I have given examples here, with phrases of Arabic origin that the English language has,
cuba Arab origin, south of portugal there is a village called cuba, yet the island of cuba had not been discovered by the Spanish


word portuguêse jangada original Malaysia -janganda « » raft

English of the German only 30% English has of the Latin 60%




word - puxe see yourself at the doors


in portuguese puxe a porta para si - puxe the door towards you

word pull exists in Portuguese and English the original Latin word.



normal eat banana - in Portuguese normal comer banana
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similar - similar

equal - igual

impossible - impossivel

banana - banana

cuba - cuba

cobra snake - cobra

zebra - zebra

magnitude - magnitude

occidental - ocidental

instrument - instrumento

solar - solar

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Cerca de 60% do léxico inglês é de origem latina, directamente ou por via francesa e, em menor grau, através de outras línguas românicas.
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About 60% of the English lexicon is of Latin origin, directly or through French and, to a lesser extent, through other Romance languages.

English only 30% germanic.
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Inglês de origem latina

O inglês é uma das línguas da família germânica ocidental, que inclui também o frísio, o holandês e o alemão. A sua base é a língua dos anglo-saxões da Inglaterra medieval. No entanto, é a língua germânica com mais influência latina. Cerca de 60% do léxico inglês é de origem latina, directamente ou por via francesa e, em menor grau, através de outras línguas românicas. Muitas palavras ou conceitos têm sinónimos, ou palavras mais ou menos equivalentes, sendo uma de origem anglo-saxónica e outra de origem latina. Em alguns casos o substantivo é de origem anglo-saxónica e o adjetivo é de origem latina.
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English of Latin origin

English is one of the languages of the West Germanic family, which also includes Frisian, Dutch and German. Its base is the language of the Anglo-Saxons of medieval England. However, it is the Germanic language with more Latin influence. About 60% of the English lexicon is of Latin origin, directly or through French and, to a lesser extent, through other Romance languages. Many words or concepts have synonyms, or more or less equivalent words, being one of Anglo-Saxon origin and another of Latin origin. In some cases the noun is of Anglo-Saxon origin and the adjective is of Latin origin.

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