‘There Is Going to Be a War Within the Party. We Are Going to Lean Into It.’

Dec 2006
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#31
Apparently we need to eliminate all the socialism in the US now?
Most of the people running around hysterically making the sign of the cross and screaming "socialism is gonna git us!" don't even know what socialism is ... and they CERTAINLY don't understand democratic socialism.

Now, it's just a word to use to scare people - like they used to use communism.
 
Apr 2013
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#33
That green new deal is actually a capitalist idea. Creating jobs on a growing sector of the energy sector of the economy. On the other side are Republicans, and their propping up of the fossil fuel industry through subsidies and tax cuts. I believe that is socialism. And AOC will sell it that way, and will be successful.

As far as Trump goes, he will face indictment at some point. At he very least if it is strung out as far as it can possibly be taken, he will face state charges in NY, and there will be no Congress, Vice President, or Supreme Court that can save him from that.

AOC is 29 years old. Most Republicans that hate her are in the 55 and up age bracket.

Guess who's politics are going to win in the end?
I agree that her and her ideas will win in the end, but 2020 is starting to scare me.
 
Mar 2013
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#34
Most of the people running around hysterically making the sign of the cross and screaming "socialism is gonna git us!" don't even know what socialism is ... and they CERTAINLY don't understand democratic socialism.

Now, it's just a word to use to scare people - like they used to use communism.

Republicans in Wisconsin gave FoxCon 4 billions dollars in tax abatement and other incentives. That's about $300,000 per job IF they reach the full 13,000 number. They hail this as an achievement.

Socialism at it's very best.
 
Apr 2013
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#35
Republicans in Wisconsin gave FoxCon 4 billions dollars in tax abatement and other incentives. That's about $300,000 per job IF they reach the full 13,000 number. They hail this as an achievement.

Socialism at it's very best.
The billions Trump is giving to farmers? Tariffs? His continued and unfulfilled promises of infrastructure? How the hell can those moves be considered free enterprise?

Obviously this is far from an exhaustive list.
 
Nov 2012
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#36
I agree that her and her ideas will win in the end, but 2020 is starting to scare me.
56% in a recent poll say they will not vote for Trump in 2020. The Koch boys say they are not supporting him. Biden or Sanders beats him in heads up polling. I don’t know if Harris, Booker, or Warren can. I know a Biden/Beto ticket could. They would raise $100 million overnight. I’m not that nervous yet.
 
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Jun 2018
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#37
As the thread wanders off into the weeds and seeks to cover the intent of the OP it's gettin' more evident with each post that the libs are the ones who are afraid of AOC. There is a contradiction here. The Dems are experiencing phase two of the conversion to a socialist/communist dominated party. It started in earnest in the 60s with the Great Society and has crept into the phase where socialists in congress are becoming the new normal for them. These young turks are terrifying to the Dem establishment but not their big money enablers who are and were established as socialist/communists a long time ago. In their minds a short term loss to Trump in 2020 won't damage their cause, just give them more time to continue destroying the Democrat party as we know it today.
You can try to deny it but the process is clear. The endgame is a communist dominated world. Europe is pretty much gone and several of the other larger countries are already communist dominated.
In the short run if AOC and her minions successfully use Bernie Sanders in their quest to dominate the party they will not relent in their drive for the endgame. If they are able to create a 3rd party this wil insure a Republican win in 2020. This isn't the concern of the young commies, their goal, due to their mostly young ages, is domination of the party in their lifetimes.
The interesting thing is I don't see a lot of resistance to the takeover as long as a dependent electorate is kept in "free stuff" mode. Sooner rather than later the old guard will die out, the rest of what will become the centrist Democrats will be run off and the upcoming socialist/communists will become the new normal.
 
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imaginethat

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Oct 2010
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#38
Hilarious. You are obsessed.
As the thread wanders off into the weeds and seeks to cover the intent of the OP it's gettin' more evident with each post that the libs are the ones who are afraid of AOC. There is a contradiction here. The Dems are experiencing phase two of the conversion to a socialist/communist dominated party. It started in earnest in the 60s with the Great Society and has crept into the phase where socialists in congress are becoming the new normal for them. These young turks are terrifying to the Dem establishment but not their big money enablers who are and were established as socialist/communists a long time ago. In their minds a short term loss to Trump in 2020 won't damage their cause, just give them more time to continue destroying the Democrat party as we know it today.
You can try to deny it but the process is clear. The endgame is a communist dominated world. Europe is pretty much gone and several of the other larger countries are already communist dominated.
In the short run if AOC and her minions successfully use Bernie Sanders in their quest to dominate the party they will not relent in their drive for the endgame. If they are able to create a 3rd party this wil insure a Republican win in 2020. This isn't the concern of the young commies, their goal, due to their mostly young ages, is domination of the party in their lifetimes.
The interesting thing is I don't see a lot of resistance to the takeover as long as a dependent electorate is kept in "free stuff" mode. Sooner rather than later the old guard will die out, the rest of what will become the centrist Democrats will be run off and the upcoming socialist/communists will become the new normal.
Check out posts #35 and #36.

What do you call that?
 
Jul 2014
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#39
I love AOC. It is time we see the communists quit being pussies and come out of the shadows. Lets get this fight on right now.
Kill commies for mommies. I am all for it.

Have you punched a communist in the face.
Tshirts are coming.

Generation z is much more of a live and let live generation. They are closer to libertarians than any other group. You control freak totalitarians had best be afraid very very afraid. Hang on kids, its going to be a bumpy ride. Communism is about to have open war declared on it and it will be a beautiful thing
It's posts like this that will make someone say, if that is a Republican, I'm voting Democratic for the rest of my life, that is some seriously demented perversion.
 
Jul 2014
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massachusetts
#40
As the thread wanders off into the weeds and seeks to cover the intent of the OP it's gettin' more evident with each post that the libs are the ones who are afraid of AOC. There is a contradiction here. The Dems are experiencing phase two of the conversion to a socialist/communist dominated party. It started in earnest in the 60s with the Great Society and has crept into the phase where socialists in congress are becoming the new normal for them. These young turks are terrifying to the Dem establishment but not their big money enablers who are and were established as socialist/communists a long time ago. In their minds a short term loss to Trump in 2020 won't damage their cause, just give them more time to continue destroying the Democrat party as we know it today.
You can try to deny it but the process is clear. The endgame is a communist dominated world. Europe is pretty much gone and several of the other larger countries are already communist dominated.
In the short run if AOC and her minions successfully use Bernie Sanders in their quest to dominate the party they will not relent in their drive for the endgame. If they are able to create a 3rd party this wil insure a Republican win in 2020. This isn't the concern of the young commies, their goal, due to their mostly young ages, is domination of the party in their lifetimes.
The interesting thing is I don't see a lot of resistance to the takeover as long as a dependent electorate is kept in "free stuff" mode. Sooner rather than later the old guard will die out, the rest of what will become the centrist Democrats will be run off and the upcoming socialist/communists will become the new normal.
You realize that 30% of Millennials identify as socialists, because they want universal health care, and old grumps call that socialist, they want free college, and old farts call that socialist, they want all the stuff that people in nordic countries take for granted, even though disgusting old folks call it socialist.
Since you call all the good stuff Socialist, they figure they must be socialists. Because they find grumpy old farts like you disgusting.