10 undisputed facts behind the Russia probe

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With all the deflection, side tracking, avoidance and attempts to stir up controversy where it does not exist we are getting from the Republican President and his Republican cohorts, this simple summary was wondrous to behold.

10 undisputed facts behind the Russia probe

Forget the memo. Fundamentally, President Trump and big chunks of conservative media are arguing that the Russia investigation is unwarranted, tainted and malicious — that the special counsel shouldn't exist.

Why it matters: Take the known knowns — 10 undisputed facts — and the smoke clears considerably.

1 At the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, the Trump campaign, chaired by Paul Manafort (since indicted), worked behind the scenes to weaken the party platform's anti-Russia stance on Ukraine.

2 "Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting."

3 Top Trump campaign officials met at Trump Tower with sketchy Russians who had offered dirt on Hillary Clinton.

4 On Air Force One, Trump helped his son, Don Jr., prepare a misleading statement about the meeting.

5 Trump, contradicting what his staff had said earlier, told NBC he fired FBI Director James Comey because of "this Russia thing."

6 Michael Flynn, later Trump's first national security adviser, talked privately about sanctions with the Russian ambassador during the transition, then denied it to Vice President Pence.

7 Flynn (who has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI) failed to disclose payments from Russia-linked entities. Trump has repeatedly defended Flynn.

8 During the transition, Jared Kushner spoke with the Russian ambassador "about establishing a secret communications channel between the Trump transition team and Moscow."

9 Attorney General Jeff Sessions, then a U.S. senator, spoke twice to the Russian ambassador, then didn't disclose the contacts during his confirmation hearing.

10 When Bob Mueller was named special counsel, Republicans widely praised him.​


Be smart: No sane person looking at those known knowns would say this is a crazy investigation.

The big picture: Yes, FBI agents have probably said things in texts they shouldn't have. Yes, former FBI Director James Comey was clumsy in his comments about Hillary Clinton. But none of that changes what this investigation is really about.
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With all the deflection, side tracking, avoidance and attempts to stir up controversy where it does not exist we are getting from the Republican President and his Republican cohorts, this simple summary was wondrous to behold.


The big picture: Yes, FBI agents have probably said things in texts they shouldn't have. Yes, former FBI Director James Comey was clumsy in his comments about Hillary Clinton. But none of that changes what this investigation is really about.
OK.....Then what is this investigation really about??....Trump committed what crime???
 
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Here's the root of the problem. Anyone who questions the president is bad.
Anything the president does is good.

Problem solved.....and I challenge Trump supporters to deny my statements.
 
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Now he refuses to implement the Russian sanctions that Congress legislated into law. Only the political shills deny the obvious.
 
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There is no crime of collusion with Russia, thus the special counsel is a witch hunt. And a very tainted witch hunt at that, full of Obama and Hillary backers.

Further, the special counsel is afoul of 28 CFR 600, as Rosenstein did not follow proper procedures in authorizing Mueller's investigation. I expect that either at the trial level, certainly on appeal, anyone who fights Mueller indictments to win.
You ... have ... no ... basis ... to ... say ... there ... is ... no ... crime ... of ... collusion ... with ... Russia, though everyone understands that's what your handlers have told you must be said, comrade.

As well ... you ... have ... no ... basis ... to ... call ... Mueller's ... investigation ... a ... witch ... hunt, though again everyone understands that's what your handlers have told you must be said, comrade.
 
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You ... have ... no ... basis ... to ... say ... there ... is ... no ... crime ... of ... collusion ... with ... Russia, though everyone understands that's what your handlers have told you must be said, comrade.

As well ... you ... have ... no ... basis ... to ... call ... Mueller's ... investigation ... a ... witch ... hunt, though again everyone understands that's what your handlers have told you must be said, comrade.
Then what is the crime that Mueller was told to investigate..?? Collusion is not a crime, no matter what your handlers have told you to say Komrade
 
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Then what is the crime that Mueller was told to investigate..?? Collusion is not a crime, no matter what your handlers have told you to say Komrade

Yep, Rosenstein did not specify a crime, which is required under 28 CFR 600 et seq. Which is why the people Mueller has thus far gathered into his net have solid claims for dismissal, though Flynn having plead to a process crime has a higher bar even if he could afford the battle. Manafort and his associate have an excellent chance at dismissal. Or is the left saying statutory regulations need not apply.
 
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