8 House Republicans break with Trump and vote to end shutdown

Sep 2016
1,652
625
Oregon
#13
The Shut down would have ended tomorrow if the Dems had only said they would negotiate on border security...Pelosi said NO. The first couple weeks of this partial shut down the employees had their pay check. This will be the first one they miss. Yes, it causes some problems but to say the Dems hold no blame for it is truly partisan. What have the Dems offered to end it? Nothing except their demands to have it ALL their way. The Dems said they wanted more technology and were offered that. They said more border Judges and got that offer. More money for border control etc and all they said they wanted was developed by Homeland Security/border control officials/police but they didn't even bother to read it. Worst of all...they have voted before for extension of "walls" and even this time had a concrete barrier changed to steel one...which they said they wanted. The Dems offer nothing and they don't give a damn about border control or the humanitarian part for the people. This latest proposal also called for more facility capacity to take care of those who ….illegally...get across the border.
All the Dems want is a fight with Donald Trump. When Pelosi goes home to Calif, she stays in her complex...with a wall...and she says walls are "immoral". Why in the hell does she have one?

Far too many DC, safely protect politicians have no idea why Donald Trump connects with ordinary people. I wasn't even a Trump supporter, but watching closely, listening to what he is trying to do I am a convert to a supporter. Until the Dem party changes, in a big way, there will never be a vote for one from here. locally, statewide or nationally.
 
Apr 2013
38,083
26,091
La La Land North
#14
The Shut down would have ended tomorrow if the Dems had only said they would negotiate on border security...Pelosi said NO. The first couple weeks of this partial shut down the employees had their pay check. This will be the first one they miss. Yes, it causes some problems but to say the Dems hold no blame for it is truly partisan. What have the Dems offered to end it? Nothing except their demands to have it ALL their way. The Dems said they wanted more technology and were offered that. They said more border Judges and got that offer. More money for border control etc and all they said they wanted was developed by Homeland Security/border control officials/police but they didn't even bother to read it. Worst of all...they have voted before for extension of "walls" and even this time had a concrete barrier changed to steel one...which they said they wanted. The Dems offer nothing and they don't give a damn about border control or the humanitarian part for the people. This latest proposal also called for more facility capacity to take care of those who ….illegally...get across the border.
All the Dems want is a fight with Donald Trump. When Pelosi goes home to Calif, she stays in her complex...with a wall...and she says walls are "immoral". Why in the hell does she have one?

Far too many DC, safely protect politicians have no idea why Donald Trump connects with ordinary people. I wasn't even a Trump supporter, but watching closely, listening to what he is trying to do I am a convert to a supporter. Until the Dem party changes, in a big way, there will never be a vote for one from here. locally, statewide or nationally.
Trump lies again. He is not interested in border security. He only wants the monument to himself, the Trump iron curtain. That's not border security.
 
Dec 2013
33,811
19,359
Beware of watermelons
#15
Free-market capitalism. You gotta love it.

Btw, what does Mr. Pelosi do?

Is Mrs. Pelosi one of the 8 House Rs who broke with Trump and voted to end the shutdown??

I think that you confuse free market w/ cronyism. This explains a lot. I wonder if most of these new american socialists also have the same flaw in their thinking. This could be by design, a product of public education and why they cant tell the difference between a fascist and a classical liberal.

Enlightening post.


Thanks for that.
 
Sep 2018
6,679
1,121
cleveland ohio
#16
Well that, and they figure what can Trump do to them from a prison cell.
this is war, i am sick of this mantra that in orderto confornt an enemy who is totally evil you must be perfect, no one is fuck that this is war, the goal is to defeat the enemy, and totally destroy them nothing else matters we sided with stalin to defeat hitler hitler gave is blitzkrieg Blitzkrieg - Wikipedia all the soviets were capable of were this Winter War - Wikipedia
 
Oct 2010
67,736
27,616
Colorado
#17
I think that you confuse free market w/ cronyism. This explains a lot. I wonder if most of these new american socialists also have the same flaw in their thinking. This could be by design, a product of public education and why they cant tell the difference between a fascist and a classical liberal.

Enlightening post.


Thanks for that.
You always go personal, even group personal when you're out of bullets. So predictable. Sad.

You're more than welcome.
 
Dec 2015
17,040
15,979
Arizona
#18
The Shut down would have ended tomorrow if the Dems had only said they would negotiate on border security...Pelosi said NO. The first couple weeks of this partial shut down the employees had their pay check. This will be the first one they miss. Yes, it causes some problems but to say the Dems hold no blame for it is truly partisan. What have the Dems offered to end it? Nothing except their demands to have it ALL their way. The Dems said they wanted more technology and were offered that. They said more border Judges and got that offer. More money for border control etc and all they said they wanted was developed by Homeland Security/border control officials/police but they didn't even bother to read it. Worst of all...they have voted before for extension of "walls" and even this time had a concrete barrier changed to steel one...which they said they wanted. The Dems offer nothing and they don't give a damn about border control or the humanitarian part for the people. This latest proposal also called for more facility capacity to take care of those who ….illegally...get across the border.
All the Dems want is a fight with Donald Trump. When Pelosi goes home to Calif, she stays in her complex...with a wall...and she says walls are "immoral". Why in the hell does she have one?

Far too many DC, safely protect politicians have no idea why Donald Trump connects with ordinary people. I wasn't even a Trump supporter, but watching closely, listening to what he is trying to do I am a convert to a supporter. Until the Dem party changes, in a big way, there will never be a vote for one from here. locally, statewide or nationally.

Oh no you don't! We wouldn't have a shutdown if Trump had taken the $25 billion a year ago. AND the Dems would have supported an extension of walls which they HAVE DONE in the past, but back to Trump. Trump has been saying "the wall--the great big beautiful wall" for years. IF Trump had said "shore up the wall(s)--extend the fencing--add to border security" we wouldn't have the shutdown. But that's not what he said, is it?
AND anyone with a brain the size of a pea knows that "the wall" will cost more than $25 billion. Americans blame Trump for the shutdown AND the wall debacle.
There are 800,000 public employees AND THEIR families who aren't getting paid. Who do you think they blame? AND just wait for this shutdown to cause some type of horrific accident. Without air traffic controllers, TSA, food/drug inspections, and safety measures, the potential is there. Trump said HE WILL OWN the shutdown. Obviously another lie.
 
Feb 2007
3,387
1,744
New York
#19
The Shut down would have ended tomorrow if the Dems had only said they would negotiate on border security...Pelosi said NO. The first couple weeks of this partial shut down the employees had their pay check. This will be the first one they miss. Yes, it causes some problems but to say the Dems hold no blame for it is truly partisan. What have the Dems offered to end it? Nothing except their demands to have it ALL their way. The Dems said they wanted more technology and were offered that. They said more border Judges and got that offer. More money for border control etc and all they said they wanted was developed by Homeland Security/border control officials/police but they didn't even bother to read it. Worst of all...they have voted before for extension of "walls" and even this time had a concrete barrier changed to steel one...which they said they wanted. The Dems offer nothing and they don't give a damn about border control or the humanitarian part for the people. This latest proposal also called for more facility capacity to take care of those who ….illegally...get across the border.
All the Dems want is a fight with Donald Trump. When Pelosi goes home to Calif, she stays in her complex...with a wall...and she says walls are "immoral". Why in the hell does she have one?

Far too many DC, safely protect politicians have no idea why Donald Trump connects with ordinary people. I wasn't even a Trump supporter, but watching closely, listening to what he is trying to do I am a convert to a supporter. Until the Dem party changes, in a big way, there will never be a vote for one from here. locally, statewide or nationally.
Minor correction needed here. MOST employees had their full paychecks. Those of us that work on Saturdays did not get paid for that day, and a number of the contractors didn't get paid for that whole week.
 
Mar 2013
9,929
10,696
Middle Tennessee
#20
The Shut down would have ended tomorrow if the Dems had only said they would negotiate on border security...Pelosi said NO. The first couple weeks of this partial shut down the employees had their pay check. This will be the first one they miss. Yes, it causes some problems but to say the Dems hold no blame for it is truly partisan. What have the Dems offered to end it? Nothing except their demands to have it ALL their way. The Dems said they wanted more technology and were offered that. They said more border Judges and got that offer. More money for border control etc and all they said they wanted was developed by Homeland Security/border control officials/police but they didn't even bother to read it. Worst of all...they have voted before for extension of "walls" and even this time had a concrete barrier changed to steel one...which they said they wanted. The Dems offer nothing and they don't give a damn about border control or the humanitarian part for the people. This latest proposal also called for more facility capacity to take care of those who ….illegally...get across the border.
All the Dems want is a fight with Donald Trump. When Pelosi goes home to Calif, she stays in her complex...with a wall...and she says walls are "immoral". Why in the hell does she have one?

Far too many DC, safely protect politicians have no idea why Donald Trump connects with ordinary people. I wasn't even a Trump supporter, but watching closely, listening to what he is trying to do I am a convert to a supporter. Until the Dem party changes, in a big way, there will never be a vote for one from here. locally, statewide or nationally.

The "wall" and "border security" ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS !!!! Trump wants a MONUMENT TO HIMSELF, since he can't get his ugly mug added to Rushmore !!! This wall has NOTHING TO DO WITH security and everything to do with Trumps massive ego. Nancy told him NO on the wall. They've never said they wouldn't fully fund border security.

Besides Trump COULD HAVE HAD THE FULL $25 BILLION ALREADY if he had cut a deal on the dreamers. THAT'S ON HIS ASS !!!