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read title and maybe first sentence > make ignorant comment

it's actually part of the mindset the OP is referring to

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that being said, projection is a big part of it too

I've seen so many trumpers literally describe themselves and/or trump when complaining about "the left" or "liberals" or whatever

and whataboutism, good lord
I've never seen a group of people so willingly confessing something is terrible by immediately whatabouting it


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it's a cult of personality, one like we've never seen before
I have been a card carrying Libertarian for a number of decades now, unlike the vast majority of my friends.
When discussing politics, I am generally on the side of Rs or Ds.
In recent decades I find less and less to agree with Ds, and nothing for those who are Leftist.

I find the Leftist position to be more and more harmful, mostly supported by individuals incapable of critical thinking. By comparison,Trump supporters are Rhodes scholars. Not all of them of course, but enough.
 
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I have been a card carrying Libertarian for a number of decades now, unlike the vast majority of my friends.
When discussing politics, I am generally on the side of Rs or Ds.
In recent decades I find less and less to agree with Ds, and nothing for those who are Leftist.

I find the Leftist position to be more and more harmful, mostly supported by individuals incapable of critical thinking. By comparison,Trump supporters are Rhodes scholars. Not all of them of course, but enough.
neat. I was a Republican > Libertarian

now that I see how crazy Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are, I kind of regret campaigning/voting for them

I'm finding myself leaning left more these days, but I warn against succumbing to identity politics, because it makes you a non-thinker

using terms like "leftists" means you're already on your way
 
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neat. I was a Republican > Libertarian

now that I see how crazy Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are, I kind of regret campaigning/voting for them

I'm finding myself leaning left more these days, but I warn against succumbing to identity politics, because it makes you a non-thinker

using terms like "leftists" means you're already on your way
The way we communicate is by naming and categorizing things and ideas. It is called "language".
You think there is no such thing as a conservative Republican, or a Leftist Liberal. I disagree.
 
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The way we communicate is by naming and categorizing things and ideas. It is called "language".
You think there is no such thing as a conservative Republican, or a Leftist Liberal. I disagree.
again I'm not crazy about definitive labels, so I'm not sure why you would think that I think that.

it's more of a spectrum with every individual falling on their unique spot

I find identity politics dangerous because it plays into "us vs them", which is dangerous to society in general.

and it also happens to be something trump pushes towards his followers. hate the "other"
 

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When you are dead you don't know you are dead. It only bothers other people.


The same is true when you are stupid.
(This just seemed appropriate here.)
 
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again I'm not crazy about definitive labels, so I'm not sure why you would think that I think that.

it's more of a spectrum with every individual falling on their unique spot

I find identity politics dangerous because it plays into "us vs them", which is dangerous to society in general.

and it also happens to be something trump pushes towards his followers. hate the "other"
you use them, whether you are crazy about them or not. You may be selective, but you use them. We object to labels when we believe they are not accurate.

as to Trump pushing his followers to hate the other, certainly I see much more of that from the Left.

Are you familiar with OECD, and do you accept their propangada (regarding Capitalist countries compared to Socialist expectations - especially concerning financial care of citizens, and others)?
 
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never heard of them

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can you point to tweets from elected officials from the "Left" that constantly talk about how terrible the other party is?

I can probably post 100 + from trump himself, so I'm not seeing how you think that.
 
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This country is slowly becoming more focused on feelings. Leaving facts for how they want to feel. This will steer us on a dark path of fallacies and poor leadership if we do not do our research, destroy the ignorance complex and return to our reality.
This perfectly describes what is going on at MSNBC and CNN.... They are treating opinion as if it is news...it explains how the Mueller Investigation went on for 22 months and wasted $30 million..... The left wanted so baddly to have their fantasy,
that Trump won only with the help of the Russians and was therefore an illegitimate POTUS, verified
 
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I was actually mainly talking about the Trumpanzees. Ya know, how they ignore the russia probe, dating porn stars, bragging about sexual assault, starting ego wars, colluding with foreign governments, having half your campaign team in jail, acting like an actual child, telling people to go back to their countries, being racist, calling nazi's "good people", getting campaign support from the KKK, hurting American farmers with expensive trade wars and a bunch of other things.
What you fail to understand is that the propagandists on the left have lied so much that what ever they come up with is just ignored.....For example, How many times can you call Trump a "Racist" in one weekend , when Trump simply is not a racist??.....or a white Supremacist??..
 

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This perfectly describes what is going on at MSNBC and CNN.... They are treating opinion as if it is news...it explains how the Mueller Investigation went on for 22 months and wasted $30 million..... The left wanted so baddly to have their fantasy,
that Trump won only with the help of the Russians and was therefore an illegitimate POTUS, verified
Fox News: I refute it thus.
 
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