All Zionist Roads Lead to Genocide

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Why were the Arabs supposed to just let settlers take their land? You see what’s wrong with the Zionist narrative?

Also the grand mufti was one man. He doesn’t represent the Palestinians today.
And what about the nations that displaced the Hebrew people eons ago?

Palestinians would have you believe that every piece of land was inhabited and simply stolen. But there is a very good reason that the Zionists were given the land. Other than the fact that their former capital Jerusalem was the place they wanted to be, it was not that well inhabited.
From the beginning of World War 1 Arabs were claiming Jews stole Palestinian land and displaced them. However, the majority of the land in this region was owned by the Ottoman Empire (subsequently the British) and absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. During this period 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were impoverished peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins… not wealthy landowners.1
The region was severely underpopulated which meant the Jews were able to avoid buying land in areas where Arabs might be displaced, which they did. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, sandy, and most importantly, without tenants

As for Husseini not being alive to lead the PLO, as I have said, his nephew later took the reigns and praise him. This tells me that even though Husseini is long dead, his movement is alive and well and in place today.
 
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And what about the nations that displaced the Hebrew people eons ago?
What does that have to do with the Palestinians? Take that up with the Romans. Also, are you aware that Palestinians are just a hodgepodge of the various groups who have inhabited the region and aren't necessarily synonymous with the Arab invaders? Palestinians are culturally and religiously diverse. You also didn't know that Jews have always had a presence in Palestine.

Where is the evidence that the founders of Israel are the descendants of the ancient Israelites? They just say it and we take it at face value without actually looking into it. They were mostly Europeans who fled to Palestine to escape anti-Semitism and establish their own country in occupied land.

Palestinians would have you believe that every piece of land was inhabited and simply stolen. But there is a very good reason that the Zionists were given the land. Other than the fact that their former capital Jerusalem was the place they wanted to be, it was not that well inhabited.
The land was inhabited. In fact, Arab Muslims made up the majority up until the 1940s.

From the beginning of World War 1 Arabs were claiming Jews stole Palestinian land and displaced them. However, the majority of the land in this region was owned by the Ottoman Empire (subsequently the British) and absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. During this period 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were impoverished peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins… not wealthy landowners.
It was ruled by the Ottoman Empire. The Palestinian Arabs were the people who lived there.

The region was severely underpopulated which meant the Jews were able to avoid buying land in areas where Arabs might be displaced, which they did. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, sandy, and most importantly, without tenants
How do you explain the documented cases where Arabs were expelled from their villages by Zionist militias then?

As for Husseini not being alive to lead the PLO, as I have said, his nephew later took the reigns and praise him. This tells me that even though Husseini is long dead, his movement is alive and well and in place today.
That's not what I said. My point is that you can't punish an entire population for the actions of one man.
 
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Israel did not take Palestinian or Arab lands. Arabs took the lands that belonged to the Palestinians, not Israelis. Jordan took their land and the Saudis too a section of their land.. They tried to take the Jewish land but have failed 7 times in doing so.

 
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Now, let's return to the ground. Not Israel, but just Palestinians got support from all possible anti-Semites, from Hitler to Farrahan and Corbyn. Anti-Semitic Europe imposes sanctions on Israel, and gives money to Palestine. Currently, the Palestinian People obtain feed and wage war against Israel at the expense of "donors", which include Europe and USA.
 
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Now, let's return to the ground. Not Israel, but just Palestinians got support from all possible anti-Semites, from Hitler to Farrahan and Corbyn. Anti-Semitic Europe imposes sanctions on Israel, and gives money to Palestine. Currently, the Palestinian People obtain feed and wage war against Israel at the expense of "donors", which include Europe and USA.
And Israel gets support from other fascist, right-wing regimes like Apartheid South Africa, the Somozas, the Saudis, and Bolsonaro in Brazil.
 
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Now, let's return to the ground. Not Israel, but just Palestinians got support from all possible anti-Semites, from Hitler to Farrahan and Corbyn. Anti-Semitic Europe imposes sanctions on Israel, and gives money to Palestine. Currently, the Palestinian People obtain feed and wage war against Israel at the expense of "donors", which include Europe and USA.
Why do you and others use the term anti-Semitic rather than anti-Jew which is far more accurate?
 
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Israel isn't a democracy. What democracy privileges one religious group over another?
That's just nonsense. Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It's human rights record is among the best in its region and respectable by any standard. Pick whichever human rights index you like and this will be clear. e.g., here's Cato's:

Human Freedom Index
 
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That's just nonsense. Israel is a parliamentary democracy. It's human rights record is among the best in its region and respectable by any standard. Pick whichever human rights index you like and this will be clear. e.g., here's Cato's:

Human Freedom Index
LOL. Do you have any idea how many times it has been condemned by numerous human rights organizations for its human rights record?

Again, what "parliamentary democracy" legally privileges one ethno-religious group over another? Only in Israel.
 
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Again, what "parliamentary democracy" legally privileges one ethno-religious group over another? Only in Israel.
Even if that assertion were true it's worth noting that those seeking to destroy Israel haven't even advanced to the stage of having a democracy.

But hey, let's look at the level of tolerance of the people and culture you're defending here. Here's a passage from Article 7 of Hamas's founding charter:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988


Just lovely, isn't it?
 
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In fact, since this thread makes the assertion that Zionism leads to genocide, perhaps a few additional quotations from Hamas's 1988 founding document would shed some light on the discussion?

From the introduction (emphasis added):

"Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised."
 
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