At least 12 dead, including police officer, after shooting in California country bar

Sep 2018
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is there anything more american than country music and dancing? How about a good ole' mass shooting at a country bar! how about that gall dang

At least twelve people are dead, including a deputy sheriff, after a shooter opened fire in a crowded country dance bar in Thousands Oaks, California on Wednesday.


Police said the gunman died inside the bar, making the death toll 13 people.

Hundreds of people were inside the Borderline Bar & Grill when the shooting started around 11:20 p.m. Shots were still being fired when police arrived.

Witnessed described a chaotic scene as panicked patrons smashed windows to get out.

Several people from inside the bar told TV stations that a tall man wearing all black with a hood and his face partly covered first shot at a person working the door, then opened fire, seemingly at random, at the people inside.

People screamed and fled to all corners of the bar, while a few people threw barstools through the windows and helped dozens escape,
witnesses said.

It was college night and country two-step lessons were being offered Wednesday at the Borderline, according to its website.

Thousand Oaks, a city of about 130,000 people is about 64 kilometres west of Los Angeles.

At least 13 dead, including police officer, after shooting in California country bar
 
Dec 2016
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Bill, you were a little premature in your judgments about what happened and the kind of bar it happened in, and whether that had anything to do with why the shooter chose that location to commit mass murder!

The suspect...it turns out, was a Marine Corp veteran - 28 years old, who had a history of "minor offenses" since his transition to civilian life in California.
That said, I'm waiting for the Guns Don't Kill People posts to come in!
 
Sep 2015
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Killed by a trained to kill Marine veteran. California should immediately ban possession of firearms for all veterans. Begin confiscation immediately. Trained killers for capitalism have no place in our civilian society with guns.
 
Sep 2018
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Killed by a trained to kill Marine veteran. California should immediately ban possession of firearms for all veterans. Begin confiscation immediately. Trained killers for capitalism have no place in our civilian society with guns.
i prpose all hand guns and semi automatic rifles be reclassified into title 2
 
Dec 2017
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Bill, you were a little premature in your judgments about what happened and the kind of bar it happened in, and whether that had anything to do with why the shooter chose that location to commit mass murder!

The suspect...it turns out, was a Marine Corp veteran - 28 years old, who had a history of "minor offenses" since his transition to civilian life in California.
That said, I'm waiting for the Guns Don't Kill People posts to come in!
@right to left

Would you be opposed to a resolution where some states choose to revoke guns, others maintain partial rights, and others still more rights? That is, would you accept a change at the level of States, rather than the Federal Government? The purpose behind this would be to allow citizens to voluntarily choose what environment they would feel more comfortable living in, rather than a nation-wide mandate.
 
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@right to left

Would you be opposed to a resolution where some states choose to revoke guns, others maintain partial rights, and others still more rights? That is, would you accept a change at the level of States, rather than the Federal Government? The purpose behind this would be to allow citizens to voluntarily choose what environment they would feel more comfortable living in, rather than a nation-wide mandate.
only if each state was able to control borders and instect cars and trucks coming to and from lax gun states basically if you dissolve the usa and create 50 new nations or some states choose to confederate, fine, but such laws would effect interstate trade, other wise it would be too easy for people to smuggle guns from lax states to strict states as an exmmple 75% of illegal guns in canada come from the usa and almost all of them from virginai and other southern states with lax laws.. such societies are a cancer that infect the world
 
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only if each state was able to control borders and instect cars and trucks coming to and from lax gun states basically if you dissolve the usa and create 50 new nations or some states choose to confederate, fine, but such laws would effect interstate trade, other wise it would be too easy for people to smuggle guns from lax states to strict states as an exmmple 75% of illegal guns in canada come from the usa and almost all of them from virginai and other southern states with lax laws.. such societies are a cancer that infect the world
@bill sands

Wait--are you suggesting it is imperative to have strict border control?
 
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@bill sands

Wait--are you suggesting it is imperative to have strict border control?
in all honesty yes look at canada do you think they just let people flood their nation, they do encourage immigration, but look at what sort of people they let in, they dont have criminal records they often have graduate degrees, i used to live in canada both left and right in the usa have a lawless street an aneerchist streak, it might be romantic , but the result is deadly
 

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