Ballot Harvesting

Nov 2005
7,072
1,719
California
#11
The article is just plain dumb.
It mindlessly complains about loosening requirements around mail-in ballots like "California’s legislature passed a law that requires a mailed ballot merely to be postmarked by election day. These ballots then have over a month to get counted."

Mail-in ballots are also heavily used by the military. Restrictions limiting mail-in ballots also hurt the number of their votes that get counted as well.
And the truth is that if the mail-in ballots were predominantly REPUBLICAN votes, Repubs wouldn't have a problem. But when it swings towards Dems using them more, suddenly they are something that should be restricted.
The lack of thought that goes into these arguments on the right clearly shows their interest in targeted voter disenfranchisement.
 
Mar 2013
8,343
8,992
Middle Tennessee
#12
The article is just plain dumb.
It mindlessly complains about loosening requirements around mail-in ballots like "California’s legislature passed a law that requires a mailed ballot merely to be postmarked by election day. These ballots then have over a month to get counted."

Mail-in ballots are also heavily used by the military. Restrictions limiting mail-in ballots also hurt the number of their votes that get counted as well.
And the truth is that if the mail-in ballots were predominantly REPUBLICAN votes, Repubs wouldn't have a problem. But when it swings towards Dems using them more, suddenly they are something that should be restricted.
The lack of thought that goes into these arguments on the right clearly shows their interest in targeted voter disenfranchisement.

I seem to remember a few years ago the GOP was upset with Florida for NOT counting all the mail in ballots because so many FL residents were deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and it was hurting GOP candidates.
 
Jun 2018
2,818
721
South Dakota
#13
I seem to remember a few years ago the GOP was upset with Florida for NOT counting all the mail in ballots because so many FL residents were deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and it was hurting GOP candidates.
We learned during the Algore Presidental fight for ballots in Fla that the absentee and all other than those voted at the polls were only counted if it would make a difference in the outcome. So in the end those votes were not counted but they would not have changed the outcome anyway. The Dems made a giant issue of it even tho they and anyone in the process knew about it.
There was some evidence that the votes from Iraq were being "hidden" to keep the count from GOP candidates.
 
Nov 2005
7,072
1,719
California
#15
We learned during the Algore Presidental fight for ballots in Fla that the absentee and all other than those voted at the polls were only counted if it would make a difference in the outcome. So in the end those votes were not counted but they would not have changed the outcome anyway. The Dems made a giant issue of it even tho they and anyone in the process knew about it.
That actually pissed me off regarding Gore. It showed he was interested in legal maneuvering to count only what was convenient for him.

However, it should also be noted that Repubs are guilty of the exact same thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ts-happy-veterans-day/?utm_term=.54f11fbacd1f
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/09/politics/trump-florida-arizona-conspiracy-theory/index.html
Arizona GOP sues to limit mail-in ballots in US Senate race


There was some evidence that the votes from Iraq were being "hidden" to keep the count from GOP candidates.
Care to document your claim?
 
Jun 2018
2,818
721
South Dakota
#16
That actually pissed me off regarding Gore. It showed he was interested in legal maneuvering to count only what was convenient for him.

However, it should also be noted that Repubs are guilty of the exact same thing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...ts-happy-veterans-day/?utm_term=.54f11fbacd1f
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/09/politics/trump-florida-arizona-conspiracy-theory/index.html
Arizona GOP sues to limit mail-in ballots in US Senate race



Care to document your claim?
Just news reports I remember from the time.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/bush-gore-military-ballots/index.html
 
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