California Fires

Nov 2012
17,132
5,641
Michigan
#1
Just heard this idiot on the news saying we need to do more about climate change to reduced the problem of wildfires in California.

What?.??.

Even if we could do something about climate change there is nothing that would shows results within the lifetimes of even the great grandchildren of anyone alive now.

Forest fires need be fought now, forests need to be managed now.
 
Oct 2010
66,893
26,975
Colorado
#3
Just heard this idiot on the news saying we need to do more about climate change to reduced the problem of wildfires in California.

What?.??.

Even if we could do something about climate change there is nothing that would shows results within the lifetimes of even the great grandchildren of anyone alive now.

Forest fires need be fought now, forests need to be managed now.
I heard this idiot on the news saying federal emergency management funds might be withheld owing to California's poor forest management practices.

The current fires are burning in urban/suburban areas and in chaparral.
 
Feb 2007
5,447
3,041
USA
#4
California Fire Experts To Donald Trump: Malibu Is Not a Forest
Pasadena fire officials say Trump should visit the area and help the victims.

By Mary Papenfuss

...

Donald Trump was slammed over the weekend for criticizing California’s “forest management” while firefighters and residents were battling three major wildfires. But experts also pointed out to the president that places like Thousand Oaks, Malibu and Paradise were not “forests.”

On Saturday, Trump wrote:

There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 10, 2018


The Hill and Woolsey fires in Ventura and Los Angeles County have destroyed thousands of structures in southern California, one of the most highly populated areas of the United States.

There are no forests to manage here,” UCLA geography professor Martin MacDonald, who was forced to evacuate from his Southern California home, told The Daily Beast on Sunday.

MacDonald called Trump’s tweet an “insult and so uninformed. It was a statement made with insensitivity and ignorance.”

Pasadena fire officials had a similar message for Trump:

Mr. President, with all due respect, you are wrong. The fires in So. Cal are urban interface fires and have NOTHING to do with forest management. Come to SoCal and learn the facts & help the victims. Scott Austin, Pres IAFF 809. @IAFFNewsDesk Donald J. Trump on Twitter
— Pasadena Fire Assn. (@PFA809) November 10, 2018

...

Continued here:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/california-fire-experts-rebuke-trump_us_5be8d15ee4b0e8438899535d
:rolleyes:
 
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Sep 2016
1,652
625
Oregon
#5
forest and rangeland management are both important to how and why fires are able to be fought. Calif jhas been a State they encouraged people to keep the areas around their homes in a "natural" way. Some have chosen to leave the brush and grass very close to homes. I doubt all these areas burning are on a setting of a town street, with lawns etc separating one "lot" from another.
 
Oct 2010
66,893
26,975
Colorado
#8
forest and rangeland management are both important to how and why fires are able to be fought. Calif jhas been a State they encouraged people to keep the areas around their homes in a "natural" way. Some have chosen to leave the brush and grass very close to homes. I doubt all these areas burning are on a setting of a town street, with lawns etc separating one "lot" from another.
That's exactly what is burning: neighborhoods. Please provide some evidence that local authorities have "encouraged" people to create non-defensible space around their homes. Frankly I don't believe that allegation.

 
Jul 2018
1,552
376
Earth
#9
That's exactly what is burning: neighborhoods. Please provide some evidence that local authorities have "encouraged" people to create non-defensible space around their homes. Frankly I don't believe that allegation.

It seems like the terrorist arsonists are having a field day burning down California.