Case against Islam

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I will list the grievances I have against Islam.

1. Religion of peace? Although most Muslims live peaceably, there is no denying that Islamic countries lead the world in terrorism

The Ten Countries Most Affected By Terrorism

I would say Islam is the pit bull of religions. Dog owners who have pit bulls swear by them and live just fine with them for the most part, but if there is ever a dog attack that kills someone, 9 times out of 10 it is from a pit bull. This is why many communities ban pit bulls but is not fair to the good pit bull dogs and owners.

2. There is no prophetic mention of the coming of Mohammad in the Bible, but there are a myriad of prophesies about Jesus. If Mohammad is such an important prophet, more so than Jesus, then where are all the prophesies about him? Then again, for such an important religious figure as Mohammad, why not mention Mohammad at all? Then again, there are warnings in Revelation about a "false prophet". That is about the only prophetic word I can find indicating the coming of Mohammad.

3. You cannot separate Islam from government because of Sharia law. Christianity has long learned the hard lesson of theocracy. There is a long list of grievances imposed by Christian theocracy, such as Inquisitions, Jewish persecution, Crusades, etc. The reason that the two don't mix is, politics is about power and money, not about God. If you try to combine the two inevitably people will use God as a reason to strive for earthly power as their abuse and oppression will be credited to God when, in fact, it was inflicted by man. And telling people to die for God for men to conquer militarily is perhaps the deadliest and most effective lies ever created.

We are warned many times as to the abuses imposed by sinful man through government. One of the first is 1 Samuel 8. Here is an expert of the early Hebrew government. There is no earthly king, just a group of judges put in place to hear grievances of the people in order to maintain civility. But the people demand a king as they go to the prophet Samuel. Samuel then tells God as God tells Samuel that they are actually rejecting him as their king. God then gives the people a stern warning as to the abuses that will be inflicted upon them if they persist in demanding a human king, but they will have none of it. God then gives them their first king whose name was Saul. Reading the rest of the OT, it is a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they find themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

Jesus also did not seek political office, did not seek military power. In fact, when he fed the multitude with a hand full of fish and bread they wanted to make him their king, but he departed from them and wanted none of it. He also said that his kingdom was not of this world, and if it were, his disciples would raise swords to defend him when they arrested him and took him to the cross. This is 100% contradictory to the life of Mohammad who converted with the sword.

4. Jihad is an open never ending invitation. When the Hebrew people conquered the Holy Land, it was a one time event. Remove them and once they are removed live in peace. With Islam, there is an open invitation for jihad at any time, so long as you perceive there to be oppression. Well guess what, this world is never ending oppression, which means for Muslims there should be never ending jihad. This is why Islamic countries lead the world in terrorism and always will.

5. Mohammad was not perfect. There is no conceivable way that you can convince me that a man who converts with the sword, takes female sex slaves, and has sex with children is perfect. In fact, there are no Biblical examples of perfect men, aside from Jesus Christ for obvious reasons. man was born with a sin nature. This provides Islam with some interesting hurdles to overcome. If there is only one perfect man, Jesus, then what of Mohammad? Why would we then place the teachings of Mohammad above that of Jesus? The only answer is, tell people that the Bible has been corrupted. No, men of God like Moses and David were perfect. They did not murder people and did not commit adultery, it was all added later. That's right, all of God's prophets were perfect, thus, there is now theological room for Mohammad to be perfect as his words now can become the only words of God that have not been corrupted. Lastly, the cross is a problem. If Jesus was perfect, why did God allow him to die on a cross? Would God not tell him to implement jihad and set him free? The crowning touch of the theology of Islam is to say that God secretly took Jesus off the cross and put another poor soul there to die for him. Think of it, some 500 years later rewriting the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, but if this story were not made up, it would present theological problems that would be insurmountable.

Perhaps the most damning indictment against Mohammad being a prophet is, he simply does not fit the mold. Jesus said that the blood of the prophets were on the heads of the people. That's right, Biblically, the prophets of God were routinely oppressed and murdered, including Jesus. Mohammad stands in stark contrast as a warlord.
 
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I think of Islam's problems as being expressed more in its cultural attitudes than anywhere else. Some public opinion data to ponder:


NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified​
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).​
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).​
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).​
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.​
al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure​
Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam​
86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam​
30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam​
76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam​
51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam​
Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.​
83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers​
78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates​

Much of the Islamic world still awaits its own Age of Enlightenment.
 
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I will list the grievances I have against Islam.

1. Religion of peace? Although most Muslims live peaceably, there is no denying that Islamic countries lead the world in terrorism

The Ten Countries Most Affected By Terrorism

I would say Islam is the pit bull of religions. Dog owners who have pit bulls swear by them and live just fine with them for the most part, but if there is ever a dog attack that kills someone, 9 times out of 10 it is from a pit bull. This is why many communities ban pit bulls but is not fair to the good pit bull dogs and owners.

2. There is no prophetic mention of the coming of Mohammad in the Bible, but there are a myriad of prophesies about Jesus. If Mohammad is such an important prophet, more so than Jesus, then where are all the prophesies about him? Then again, for such an important religious figure as Mohammad, why not mention Mohammad at all? Then again, there are warnings in Revelation about a "false prophet". That is about the only prophetic word I can find indicating the coming of Mohammad.

3. You cannot separate Islam from government because of Sharia law. Christianity has long learned the hard lesson of theocracy. There is a long list of grievances imposed by Christian theocracy, such as Inquisitions, Jewish persecution, Crusades, etc. The reason that the two don't mix is, politics is about power and money, not about God. If you try to combine the two inevitably people will use God as a reason to strive for earthly power as their abuse and oppression will be credited to God when, in fact, it was inflicted by man. And telling people to die for God for men to conquer militarily is perhaps the deadliest and most effective lies ever created.

We are warned many times as to the abuses imposed by sinful man through government. One of the first is 1 Samuel 8. Here is an expert of the early Hebrew government. There is no earthly king, just a group of judges put in place to hear grievances of the people in order to maintain civility. But the people demand a king as they go to the prophet Samuel. Samuel then tells God as God tells Samuel that they are actually rejecting him as their king. God then gives the people a stern warning as to the abuses that will be inflicted upon them if they persist in demanding a human king, but they will have none of it. God then gives them their first king whose name was Saul. Reading the rest of the OT, it is a spiral downward for the Jewish nation until they find themselves in the ovens of Nazi Germany.

Jesus also did not seek political office, did not seek military power. In fact, when he fed the multitude with a hand full of fish and bread they wanted to make him their king, but he departed from them and wanted none of it. He also said that his kingdom was not of this world, and if it were, his disciples would raise swords to defend him when they arrested him and took him to the cross. This is 100% contradictory to the life of Mohammad who converted with the sword.

4. Jihad is an open never ending invitation. When the Hebrew people conquered the Holy Land, it was a one time event. Remove them and once they are removed live in peace. With Islam, there is an open invitation for jihad at any time, so long as you perceive there to be oppression. Well guess what, this world is never ending oppression, which means for Muslims there should be never ending jihad. This is why Islamic countries lead the world in terrorism and always will.

5. Mohammad was not perfect. There is no conceivable way that you can convince me that a man who converts with the sword, takes female sex slaves, and has sex with children is perfect. In fact, there are no Biblical examples of perfect men, aside from Jesus Christ for obvious reasons. man was born with a sin nature. This provides Islam with some interesting hurdles to overcome. If there is only one perfect man, Jesus, then what of Mohammad? Why would we then place the teachings of Mohammad above that of Jesus? The only answer is, tell people that the Bible has been corrupted. No, men of God like Moses and David were perfect. They did not murder people and did not commit adultery, it was all added later. That's right, all of God's prophets were perfect, thus, there is now theological room for Mohammad to be perfect as his words now can become the only words of God that have not been corrupted. Lastly, the cross is a problem. If Jesus was perfect, why did God allow him to die on a cross? Would God not tell him to implement jihad and set him free? The crowning touch of the theology of Islam is to say that God secretly took Jesus off the cross and put another poor soul there to die for him. Think of it, some 500 years later rewriting the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, but if this story were not made up, it would present theological problems that would be insurmountable.

Perhaps the most damning indictment against Mohammad being a prophet is, he simply does not fit the mold. Jesus said that the blood of the prophets were on the heads of the people. That's right, Biblically, the prophets of God were routinely oppressed and murdered, including Jesus. Mohammad stands in stark contrast as a warlord.
Nice rant. I doubt Jesus would approve of the hate mongering. BTW, there is no prophesy of Paul either yet he wrote most of the books in the NT. Go figure.
 
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You refute nothing that was said in the OP. A domestic terrorist can be of any religion or any political ideology. International extremist aren't going to compete with the numbers of legal US citizens because since 911 the US has been doing a better job at tracking international terrorist by the DHS, CIA, etc. The big picture is Islamic terrorism is a greater threat to the entire world for reasons world governments would rather you NOT know.

To give you a tasty little example. Islamic terrorism sets no limits. Nuclear and biological terrorism will one day become a horrific reality. Watch the MEMRI video here...
1 Million Children Enrolled in Hamas Jihad Course | Clarion Project