Chilling World War III 'wargames' show US forces crushed by Russia and China

Nov 2012
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#21
I see. So, the best military in the world would get its ass handed to it in the very regions where it projects power to defend its allies.

Gotcha. Thanks.
No, it was get it's ass handed to it in SOME REGIONS and it would do the Ass handing in MOST REGIONS.

You would have known that if you had read your article.

There are logistical reasons for some regions would be difficult to defend, it would be like the Russians, decide to invade Mexico, those same logistics would play against them, same for western Europe.. (that is if the French don't surrender at the first shot.)
 
Dec 2018
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Unionville Indiana
#23
The result was that the nukes the Russians have already placed in Cuba and those on the way were returned to Russia and the Us removed Pershing Artillery missiles (SRBMs) That's oversimplistic but the net result was disastrous for Cuba. The Russians quickly lost interest in Cuba and when Gorbi came to power and proceeded to dismantle the agreements between Russia and Cuba it was all over for them. Cuba returned to third world shithole status.
You're forgetting, or don't know, about JFK removing U.S. missiles from Turkey as part of the quid pro quo arrangement. That part of the deal was secretly negotiated through a back channel in the press and was kept from the public. Unlike the RW, then and now, JFK was a cryptic peacenik.
 
Mar 2013
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China has 1.4 BILLION people and nearly unlimited resources And they have massive manufacturing capabilities. Most of it formally US manufacturing. In anything resembling a conventional war, they would do to us what we did to Germany and Japan. They would simply grind us down until we were out of people and equipment to prosecute the war.
 
Nov 2012
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Lebanon, TN
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You're forgetting, or don't know, about JFK removing U.S. missiles from Turkey as part of the quid pro quo arrangement. That part of the deal was secretly negotiated through a back channel in the press and was kept from the public. Unlike the RW, then and now, JFK knew was a cryptic peacenik.
The missiles were removed, because all pershing missiles were being dismantled because they were obsolete... and were being replaced due to improvements in submarine launched systems.
 
Oct 2010
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The result was that the nukes the Russians have already placed in Cuba and those on the way were returned to Russia and the Us removed Pershing Artillery missiles (SRBMs) That's oversimplistic but the net result was disastrous for Cuba. The Russians quickly lost interest in Cuba and when Gorbi came to power and proceeded to dismantle the agreements between Russia and Cuba it was all over for them. Cuba returned to third world shithole status.
The missiles in Turkey weren't Pershings.

Secretly, the United States agreed that it would dismantle all US-built Jupiter MRBMs, which had been deployed in Turkey against the Soviet Union; there has been debate on whether or not Italy was included in the agreement as well. Cuban Missile Crisis - Wikipedia

From the link above: The PGM-19 Jupiter was the first nuclear tipped, medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) of the United States Air Force (USAF). It was a liquid-propellant rocket using RP-1 fuel and LOX oxidizer, with a single Rocketdyne LR70-NA (model S-3D) rocket engine producing 667 kN of thrust. It was armed with the 1.44 megaton W49 nuclear warhead.

For the time the Jupiter was highly accurate.
 
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Nov 2012
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11,805
Lebanon, TN
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China has 1.4 BILLION people and nearly unlimited resources And they have massive manufacturing capabilities. Most of it formally US manufacturing. In anything resembling a conventional war, they would do to us what we did to Germany and Japan. They would simply grind us down until we were out of people and equipment to prosecute the war.
I doubt it you see they have the same logistical problems we would have if we invaded China.
 
Dec 2018
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Unionville Indiana
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The missiles were removed, because all pershing missiles were being dismantled because they were obsolete... and were being replaced due to improvements in submarine launched systems.
I know, but Kennedy was opposed by the RW military/industrial complex and Goldwater for doing it anyway as part of the deal with the Soviets. They thought he looked weak. You would have hated him.
 
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