Does it matter what we call it?

Nov 2012
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Chicago
#5
germany has had a welfare state since 1880 so until it ends it never ends and remember germany has the strongest economy in europe and the world so what do yo say to that?
Use a capital G when you refer to Germany! And for your 411, Germany has been having more and more difficulty ever since the invasion of Muslims from Seria, et al. Smaller countries with a predominately Judeo/Christian population as well as more homogeneous populations have a more equal distribution of wealth, then a large, hodgepodge, population such as ours. There will always be relatively few people that have the ability, desire, imagination, as well as luck to come up with an idea or product which results in great wealth for themselves. What the heck do you think draws people to our Country, it's our freedom, as well as the ability to become wealthy. However what the Democrats are proposing is Socialism/Communism which has never worked, it removes any incentive to work hard, or to improve the quality of a product.;)
 
Mar 2013
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10,277
Middle Tennessee
#6
Use a capital G when you refer to Germany! And for your 411, Germany has been having more and more difficulty ever since the invasion of Muslims from Seria, et al. Smaller countries with a predominately Judeo/Christian population as well as more homogeneous populations have a more equal distribution of wealth, then a large, hodgepodge, population such as ours. There will always be relatively few people that have the ability, desire, imagination, as well as luck to come up with an idea or product which results in great wealth for themselves. What the heck do you think draws people to our Country, it's our freedom, as well as the ability to become wealthy. However what the Democrats are proposing is Socialism/Communism which has never worked, it removes any incentive to work hard, or to improve the quality of a product.;)
No actually we're not !!!! Only the most hard core extremist in the dem party are proposing any such thing. Most of my friends are fairly liberal. None of them want to give up their decent paying jobs, capitalist system jobs. What most are proposing are systems like Finland or Sweden where some of the basics are covered. I wonder ?? How many people DON'T start businesses or spend more time on their inventions because they HAVE to have a job with medical insurance ?? I have had to choose between a where I was working with insurance and a position where there might have been room for upward movement, but sadly they had no insurance. As a 58 year old male with some of the usual ages related health issues I simply didn't have choice. How may are held back because day care for their children costs half as much as they earn ?? How many don't start businesses because we don't have much of a safety net ? They could literally lose everything if they fail.
 
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Jun 2018
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South Dakota
#7
germany has had a welfare state since 1880 so until it ends it never ends and remember germany has the strongest economy in europe and the world so what do yo say to that?
Germanys economy is a result of the assistance it received after WWII. The other recipient was Japan. Both countries literally matched the economies of the world in massive successes. The Japanese used the teachings of Deming to achieve success.

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Dr. Deming: The American Who Taught the Japanese
 
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Sep 2018
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1,112
cleveland ohio
#8
Use a capital G when you refer to Germany! And for your 411, Germany has been having more and more difficulty ever since the invasion of Muslims from Seria, et al. Smaller countries with a predominately Judeo/Christian population as well as more homogeneous populations have a more equal distribution of wealth, then a large, hodgepodge, population such as ours. There will always be relatively few people that have the ability, desire, imagination, as well as luck to come up with an idea or product which results in great wealth for themselves. What the heck do you think draws people to our Country, it's our freedom, as well as the ability to become wealthy. However what the Democrats are proposing is Socialism/Communism which has never worked, it removes any incentive to work hard, or to improve the quality of a product.;)
agreed but what does that have to do with their welfare state, which works well for the german people oh excuse me GERMAN PEEPLEZZ ja? Fascism - Volksgemeinschaft even hitler embraced the welfare state as part of the german mentality germans are a tribel people individualism is an alien concept to the germanic collective left or right we are herd animals or pack animals germans are more like wolves than sheeep olksgemeinschaft (German pronunciation: [ˈfɔlksɡəˌmaɪnʃaft]) is a German expression meaning "people's community".[1][2] This expression originally became popular during World War I as Germans rallied in support of the war, and it appealed to the idea of breaking down elitism and uniting people across class divides to achieve a national purpose.[
Ironically, the word "Volksgemeinschaft" was probably first used in Gottlob August Tittel's 1791 translation of a text written by John Locke, synthesising the expression "in any [particular] place, generally".[4][5] Among 19th century scholars who used the word "Volksgemeinschaft" were Friedrich Schleiermacher, Friedrich Carl von Savigny, Carl Theodor Welcker, Johann Caspar Bluntschli, Hermann Schulze, Wilhelm Dilthey, and Wilhelm Wundt.[6] Most influential was perhaps Ferdinand Tönnies' theory in his work Gemeinschaft und Gesellschaft ("Community and Society") of 1887.[7] Decades later, in 1932, Tönnies joined the Social Democratic Party of Germany to oppose the rise of Nazism and protest against their use of his concept. He had his honorary professorship removed when Adolf Hitler came to power.[8] In 1914, the Emperor Wilhelm II proclaimed before the Reichstag the Burgfrieden ("the peace within a castle under siege"), announcing that henceforward all of the regional differences between the different states of the Reich; between rich, middle class and poor; between Roman Catholics and Protestants; and between rural and urban no longer existed and the German people were all one for the duration of the war. During the war, many Germans longed to have the sense of unity that the Burgfrieden inspired continue after the war, and it was during this period that many ideas started to circulate about how to convert the wartime Burgfrieden into a peacetime volksgemeinschaft.
In the aftermath of World War I, the idea of Volksgemeinschaft was used to interpret economic catastrophes and hardship facing Germans during the Weimar Republic era as a common experience of the German nation and to argue for German unity to bring about renewal to end the crisis.[3] It was adopted by the Nazi Party to justify actions against Jews, profiteers, Marxists, and the Allies of World War I, whom the Nazis accused of obstructing German national regeneration, causing national disintegration in 1918 and Germany's defeat in World War I.[3]
There is an ongoing debate among historians as to whether a Volksgemeinschaft was or was not successfully established between 1933 and 1945. This is a notably controversial topic of debate for ethical and political reasons, and is made difficult by the ambiguous language employed by Hitler and the Nazis when talking about the Volksgemeinschaft.
The Nazis continued social welfare policies initiated by the governments of the Weimar Republic and mobilized volunteers to assist those impoverished, "racially-worthy" Germans through the National Socialist People's Welfare organization.[22] This organization oversaw charitable activities, and became the largest civic organization in Nazi Germany.[22] Successful efforts were made to get middle-class women involved in social work assisting large families.[21] The Winter Relief campaigns acted as a ritual to generate public feeling.[23] even the nazis saw the benifit of a welfare state
In the aftermath of World War I, the idea of Volksgemeinschaft was used to interpret economic catastrophes and hardship facing Germans during the Weimar Republic era as a common experience of the German nation and to argue for German unity to bring about renewal to end the crisis.[3] It was adopted by the Nazi Party to justify actions against Jews, profiteers, Marxists, and the Allies of World War I, whom the Nazis accused of obstructing German national regeneration, causing national disintegration in 1918 and Germany's defeat in World War I.[3]
There is an ongoing debate among historians as to whether a Volksgemeinschaft was or was not successfully established between 1933 and 1945. This is a notably controversial topic of debate for ethical and political reasons, and is made difficult by the ambiguous language employed by Hitler and the Nazis when talking about the Volksgemeinschaft.
 
Sep 2018
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1,112
cleveland ohio
#9
Use a capital G when you refer to Germany! And for your 411, Germany has been having more and more difficulty ever since the invasion of Muslims from Seria, et al. Smaller countries with a predominately Judeo/Christian population as well as more homogeneous populations have a more equal distribution of wealth, then a large, hodgepodge, population such as ours. There will always be relatively few people that have the ability, desire, imagination, as well as luck to come up with an idea or product which results in great wealth for themselves. What the heck do you think draws people to our Country, it's our freedom, as well as the ability to become wealthy. However what the Democrats are proposing is Socialism/Communism which has never worked, it removes any incentive to work hard, or to improve the quality of a product.;)
i think they are propsing a welfare state like germany whcih works quite well

Why is the German economy so strong?
 
Sep 2018
6,679
1,112
cleveland ohio
#10
Use a capital G when you refer to Germany! And for your 411, Germany has been having more and more difficulty ever since the invasion of Muslims from Seria, et al. Smaller countries with a predominately Judeo/Christian population as well as more homogeneous populations have a more equal distribution of wealth, then a large, hodgepodge, population such as ours. There will always be relatively few people that have the ability, desire, imagination, as well as luck to come up with an idea or product which results in great wealth for themselves. What the heck do you think draws people to our Country, it's our freedom, as well as the ability to become wealthy. However what the Democrats are proposing is Socialism/Communism which has never worked, it removes any incentive to work hard, or to improve the quality of a product.;)
so how long have you been a nazi?
 

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