For those who still think the border facilities are fine

Dec 2018
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#31
The federal government can take control of those powers through Congress because this is a republic and the federal supremacy clause
No, that's simply not correct. The supremacy clause does not increase the scope of the federal government's powers. It means that where that for any given enumerated power the state laws are subordinate to the federal government's laws.
 
Dec 2018
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#32
I hate to get too picky, but SCOTUS has disagreed with your assertion since McCulloch v. Maryland (1819).

(Holding: Although the Constitution does not specifically give Congress the power to establish a bank, it delegates the ability to tax and spend. Since a bank is a proper and suitable instrument to assist the operations of the government in the collection and disbursement of the revenue, and federal laws have supremacy over state laws, Maryland had no power to interfere with the bank's operation by taxing it. Maryland Court of Appeals reversed.)
Do you agree with every decision SCOTUS has ever made?
 
Jul 2018
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The confederacy wasn't a foreign country, it was always part of the United States, just a region that was in rebellion.
That's why a person born in Texas during the civil war was considered a natural born citizen.
That is not true. When the war was over each of the eleven States had to apply to be admitted to the Union on an individual basis. It took years before they all joined the Union. Georgia had to do it twice. They could have remained independent.
 
Jul 2018
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No, that's simply not correct. The supremacy clause does not increase the scope of the federal government's powers. It means that where that for any given enumerated power the state laws are subordinate to the federal government's laws.
You should not believe everything you think. Do you think that the Constitution authorizes the federal government to print money?

8 Things You May Not Know About American Money
https://www.history.com/news/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-american-money
 
Sep 2015
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That is not true. When the war was over each of the eleven States had to apply to be admitted to the Union on an individual basis. It took years before they all joined the Union. Georgia had to do it twice. They could have remained independent.
There are six flags over Texas and Georgia. Ohio does not have a State Flag but has a State Pennant.
 
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That is not true. When the war was over each of the eleven States had to apply to be admitted to the Union on an individual basis. It took years before they all joined the Union. Georgia had to do it twice. They could have remained independent.
That's pure fantasy.
Those states were in rebellion, but they were always part of the United States, that's why the Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves in the areas under Confederate control, it had legal force in those areas, because those areas were still part of the United States.
 
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That's pure fantasy.
Those states were in rebellion, but they were always part of the United States, that's why the Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves in the areas under Confederate control, it had legal force in those areas, because those areas were still part of the United States.
The British used their navy and military to suppress the transatlantic slave trade. The Atlantic Ocean is not part of Britain.
Nations can do whatever they want during wars. The Emancipation Proclamation "freed" slaves in the eleven States that came under Union army control. It did not have the effect of freeing slaves in the North or in areas where the Confederate army remained in control.

The eleven States had their own constitution, national name, military, executive, judicial, and legislative branches that were completely separate from the Union. They did not have representatives in the Union Congress and they had to individually apply to be admitted to the Union after the war. They lost their citizenship during that time. All children born in those States during the war and until admittance were not natural born American citizens.

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May 2019
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Here is the link from the Office of Inspector General, an office under the Trump administration, that notes for the SECOND time in about a month the horrible conditions at the boarder facilities.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/2019-07/OIG-19-51-Jul19_.pdf

You don't want to believe CNN? Fine
You don't want to believe MSNBC? Cool
You don't want to believe Fox News? Great

But this is the agency assigned for investigating this kind of shit.

PS Note page 7 which shows photos of and describes rooms with a max capacity under 50, holding 70-80 migrants.

Conservatives for Cruelty stand proud
In other words, the facilities have been crap for decades, but your fake outrage needs to kick in 40 years after the fact because your CNN overlords, who were disinterested for decades, told you to virtue signal and shed fake tears at their selected time.

What's even better? They are still using pictures to this day from 2014 in these stories. You know...the exact pictures from 2014 that you're pretending to now be pissed off about.