France stands firm over nomination of gay Vatican envoy

Apr 2013
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For a staunch Catholic country, this surprises me. I can't see it being an "in your face" from France to the Vatican.

France has said it will not back down over its nomination of an openly gay ambassador to the Vatican.

The French government proposed senior diplomat Laurent Stefanini for the post in January but the Vatican is yet to respond to approve the choice.
The Vatican usually responds within six weeks to approve such a new ambassador.

The nomination of Mr Stefanini was seen as a litmus test for Pope Francis, who has taken a more liberal stance on homosexuality.
A French government spokesman said there had been negotiations with the Vatican over the appointment.

"France has chosen its ambassador to the Vatican. This choice was Stefanini and that remains the French proposal," said spokesman Stephane Le Foll.
Observers say most Vatican appointments are confirmed within six weeks and that this long silence should be read as a rejection.

The Vatican traditionally makes no statement if it intends to decline a nomination.

Mr Stefanini served in the Holy See as a deputy ambassador in the French embassy from 2001 to 2005.

He was described by the country's foreign ministry as "one of our best diplomats".

France legalised same-sex marriage in 2013, despite opposition from the Catholic Church.

Pope Francis is regarded as more tolerant of homosexuality than previous popes. "Who am I to judge?", he said in 2013.
France stands firm over nomination of gay Vatican envoy - BBC News
 
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Dec 2006
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Has anything been written about whether or not this gay diplomat is even sexually active, or if he's celibate?

If he's a celibate gay man, and the Vatican turns their back on him, it goes against everything they've said about gay priests.
 
Jun 2014
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Has anything been written about whether or not this gay diplomat is even sexually active, or if he's celibate?

If he's a celibate gay man, and the Vatican turns their back on him, it goes against everything they've said about gay priests.
Not sure. But France has sent a gay representative in 2007 and it was rejected under that other Pope.
 
Mar 2007
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Maybe the guy just earned the position. Maybe he's a really good Catholic.
Being Catholic means you cannot possibly be openly gay. I'm not saying that is a good thing, but it is part of the Catholic doctrine that homosexuality is a sin.

I think this compares to a black man demanding to be accepted by the KKK.
 
Dec 2014
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I'm just sitting here trying to figure out why I should give a rat's ass who France sends to the Vatican as an ambassador, or what the Vatican might think of him.
 
Mar 2007
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I'm just sitting here trying to figure out why I should give a rat's ass who France sends to the Vatican as an ambassador, or what the Vatican might think of him.
I'm wondering why a gay issue even comes up in the Catholic church since they regard homosexuality as a sin.
 

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