George H.W. Bush Dead

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Big news which the main stream media largely ignored... Trump acted as an adult today.

Something this momentous should get more coverage.

"Trump is not treated fair" will be the war cry from the wingnuts who will site that this is not front page news.
 
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Big news which the main stream media largely ignored... Trump acted as an adult today.
Something this momentous should get more coverage.
"Trump is not treated fair" will be the war cry from the wingnuts who will site that this is not front page news.
Obama in office: Repubs fixate on individual mistakes and ignore the big picture regarding his conduct. Repubs try to negatively label him as a "narcissist" and a "celebrity".
Trump in office: Repubs ignore the big picture and try to fixate on individual things that Trump doesn't act like an arse on. Trump is a narcissist and they actually elected a TV celebrity...
:rolleyes:
 
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If there is a "deep state" I would not characterize it as some dark secret agenda by progressives to take over the country by control of government, media, industry, and the courts. Given the actions of the Koch brothers and the Federalist Society infiltration of law schools, I suspect that any deep state is Republican.

Yup, it is completely partisan
 
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All I can say is that we should have appreciated him more considering we really did not realize how screwed up the Republican Party could actually become....

Today is a day of mourning for ..... moderate Republicanism.
Right! Imagine for a moment, if the Nazis won the second World War....by now there would be millions of people in the German Empire reminiscing about how we should appreciate our Founding Father of the Third Reich - Adolph....in spite of the genocides...since the Nazi Party is so screwed up today!

Common Dreams is a polite progressive liberal site. For my personal tastes, my favorite Poppy Bush eulogy came from Caitlin Johnstone:

If You Murdered A Bunch Of People, Mass Murder Is Your Single Defining Legacy

Thought experiment:
Think of an acquaintance of yours. Not someone you’re particularly close to, just some guy in the cast of extras from the scenery of your life. Now, imagine learning that that guy is a serial murderer, who has been prowling the streets for years stabbing people to death. Imagine he goes his whole life without ever suffering any consequences for murdering all those people, and then when he dies, everyone wants to talk about how great he was and share heartwarming anecdotes about him. If you try to bring up the whole serial killing thing, people react with sputtering outrage that you would dare to speak ill of such a noble and wonderful person.

“Look, I didn’t agree with everything he did, but you can’t just let one not-so-great thing from a man’s life eclipse all the other good things he’s accomplished,” they protest. “For example, did you know he was a baseball captain at Yale?”

“But… what about all those people he murdered?” you reply.

“God, why can’t you just pay respect to a great man in our time of mourning??” they shout in exasperation......................................................... If You Murdered A Bunch Of People, Mass Murder Is Your Single Defining Legacy
 
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If there is a "deep state" I would not characterize it as some dark secret agenda by progressives to take over the country by control of government, media, industry, and the courts. Given the actions of the Koch brothers and the Federalist Society infiltration of law schools, I suspect that any deep state is Republican.
No, the Deep State is the permanent or near permanent government that rules so many...if not most nations in the world today that have some form of elected government.

In the US for example, start with the CIA. Look at how much of their budgets are blacked out and not even open for view to members of Congress...let alone the American public! Security can always be thrown on as the figleaf to prevent outsiders from looking in on what they're doing or what they are pissing money away on! HW Bush was once CIA director btw!

And take a wide-angle look at the Pentagon departments. They were supposed to be subject to an outside audit, but the company conducting the audit just threw up their hands and gave up! Noting that more than 21 Trillion Dollars that have gone in and out of DoD departments cannot be accounted for! This is the price you pay for wanting to enforce a global empire and giving the managers of that system more and more money, with fewer strings attached regulating how the money is spent.

This is where you'll find your deep state! It's one that...a very long time ago now, a President Eisenhower first mentioned the term during his final speech from the White House....added in it's believed to alert the public to the threat his incoming replacement - John F. Kennedy, wasn't listening to! And the rest is history! The Deep State...a collection of military departments, workiing in close cooperation with weapons contractors, ensures that its budgets keep rising year over year, even while everyone else's fall.

If increasing "defense" spending requires new wars of various sizes, they got that one covered to! There are enough bought off members of either of the permitted political parties in Congress to make sure that "defense" appropriations never get cut back. Those Democrat and Republican political hacks, working in close cooperation with sycophant media make sure that the American public hears a non-stop barrage of panicked warnings of imminent threats. When the old threats fail to interest the public, new threats are ginned up.

The takeaway is that the deep state is content with allowing the public and their elected leaders play with issues that are of little or no consequence to them, BUT if any progressive reformer or libertarian non-interventionist breathes a word about cutting their programs and budgets, see how long they will live afterwards! But, unless someone grabs the bull by the horns, where does the money come from to provide public health insurance, free or low cost higher education, $15 minimum wage etc.? Left unchecked, the military costs of empire will keep consuming more and more dollars and leave nothing but debts for the public to pay for.
 
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National Thanksgiving Turkey Presentation is a ceremony that takes place at the White House every year shortly before Thanksgiving. The President of the United States is presented with a live domestic turkey by the National Turkey Federation, usually of the Broad Breasted White variety. The early years also included a joint presentation with the Poultry and Egg National Board. The ceremony dates back to the 1940s, with presidents occasionally sparing the bird presented to them;
since 1989, during George H. W. Bush's first Thanksgiving as president, it has been an annual tradition for the president to "pardon" the turkey.[1]
National Thanksgiving Turkey Presentation - Wikipedia
 
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Big news which the main stream media largely ignored... Trump acted as an adult today.

Something this momentous should get more coverage.

"Trump is not treated fair" will be the war cry from the wingnuts who will site that this is not front page news.
why does anyone care what they think they are the enemy
 

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