Georgia still hasn’t managed to rename Runaway Negro Creek

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Staying out of the Union would have been disadvantageous for the rebel states, on balance, and anyway, what would have been the fate of a state that decided against rejoining the Union? They had been conquered, militarily defeated, the war had ended, and the South lost, but nevermind that. What if: "Hey Union, we've decided not to rejoin the y'all, all of us."

Seems impossible to me.
Why was it impossible? Sure, they were under military occupation and the economy was wrecked and the people were ignorant which would have made things difficult but they could have stayed independent if they had wanted too. Did you know that Georgia got kicked out of the Union after it had rejoined? The Confederate States of America

Per the strict language of the 14th Amendment all children born in the 11 Confederate States from the time they seceeded to the time they were admitted were not American citizens because they were born in a foreign country. That is why the 32nd VP of the USA should have been barred from office. He was never an American citizen.

"14th Amendment
Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
 
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The Confederate States did not have to rejoin the Union. They could have stayed separate and formed a new country.
Seems to me they were a conquered country, or countries as the case may be.
The South was under Union military occupation and martial law until the Compromise of 1877. Whatever State governments that existed in the South were dictated by the US Army, and dominated by the carpetbaggers and scalawags that formed local biracial Republican parties. The Republicans prevented any former ranking Confederate politician or military officer to be seated as new Congressmen or Senators. Right or wrong, the South had no choice.
 
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The South was under Union military occupation and martial law until the Compromise of 1877. Whatever State governments that existed in the South in was dictated by the US Army, and dominated by the carpetbaggers, and scalawags that formed local biracial Republican parties. The Republicans prevented an former ranking Confederate politician or military officers to be seated as new Congressmen or Senators. Right or wrong, the South had no choice.
Let's put it this way: the South has a tradition of BAD choices. It's best they had none then.

How about this: we name it Marcus Livius Creek?
 

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